Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media coverage of US President Obama's Bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 05:02, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Media coverage of US President Obama's Bowing to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia
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The entire article seems to be a logical argument for why the article itself is not notable. ;o/ Oliver  Twisted (Talk) (Stuff)  04:43, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Strong Delete Now that is just sad. The entire article basically seems to argue that the action itself was pointless and not worthy of comment. --Pstanton (talk) 04:51, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete If anything this should be a one line item in the Barack Obama entry. It reads like it should be titled "Should the US media cover every greeting between President Obama and a foreign leader?". Wperdue (talk) 04:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)wperdue


 * Delete As Pstanton said, the article gives a full commentary basically stating that it's not worth having this article. fuzzy510 (talk) 05:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP:NOTNEWS... especially when most of the news networks aren't even bothering to mention it. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 07:40, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per above.Nrswanson (talk) 08:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. "Not news" seems to have a double meaning in this context. First, Wikipedia is not for news reports. Second, a normal greeting is not even newsworthy (hence none of the mainstream media bothered covered it), let alone encyclopedic. Sjakkalle (Check!)  08:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Hekerui (talk) 12:15, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - Wp:NOTNEWS. The President greets a foreign leader with the traditional greeting of his host? How the hell is that notable? DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  13:05, 5 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Save - Wp:NEWS. This entry is an interesting study of journalism and how to properly make points and counterpoints.  It seems the only reason the entry is being considered for deletion is because some consider it not to be news.  Yet, the entry makes a case for why this is news.  More journalistic information would be useful and educational.  Other points in favor of the entry,  Wiki is for accurately relating facts and facts are news.  Also, this greeting was not a normal greeting for presidents.  And, the Wiki News page has an entry about President Bush holding hands with the Saudi king and the NY Post had this as a front page picture.  I think this is a neutral entry and should remain in Wikipedia. Hypeson (talk) 16:06, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - It should be noted that the above comment was added by (I'm assuming) a new user - the contributions are three edits here and the creation of the talk page for the article in question. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) | (talk to me) | (What I've done)  20:08, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pure original research into a non-notable event. As the article itself puts it, "A president bowing to a foreign monarch is a sign of respect and common courtesy which does not merit news coverage."  Quite.  I'll note that the counterpoints to that argument are simply wrong (e.g. Michelle Obama touching the Queen was considered a breach of etiquette, therefore does merit coverage). JulesH (talk) 16:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * (comment copied from article talk page): SAVE - This is a significant event that in the past has engendered much media attention. An American President has never in the past bowed from the waist to a foreign head of state. It is extraordinary and needs to be examined and reported. To delete it is an attempt to suppress genuinely newsworthy content. President Bush's greeting of King Abdullah was examined closely in the press and this is a much more dramatic gesture by America's President. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sscrvtea (talk • contribs) 22:29, 5 April 2009
 * Delete, this sort of novel synthesis and analysis of new events is precisely what Wikinews is for; not suitable for WP. +sj  +  23:11, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete The objectivity and quality of the article is shown by the heading: "Claim, administration officials have asked the media to suppress the story" for which is supported only by the statement that previous administrations have sometimes asked the media to suppress stories--referenced to a news account that doesnt say that.  DGG (talk) 13:08, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Save This is a significant event a precedent of the US President bowing to a foreign monarch. Perhaps the title of the article should be modified or the article may be merged with the main Obama article.Cherylyoung (talk) 21:04, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete doesn't merit its own article and seems very OR.  untwirl (talk) 23:02, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. . But article's focus and name should change. Before there is an article about the media coverage of him bowing down, there should be an article about him bowing down. --Anewpester (talk) 01:33, 10 April 2009 (UTC)


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