Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media in Karachi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Redirect to the respective "... in Pakistan" articles.. Anything worthwhile can be merged from the history. Consensus is clearly not to retain these lists separately, but not quite clear to delete outright.  Sandstein  12:40, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Media in Karachi

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Unsourced, WP:OR, and clearly intended to be a directory to further articles: – all of whom have been created by the same editor by selective copy-paste from: With the vast majority of Pakistani newspapers/magazines/TV channels having nationwide reach, these newly created Karachi lists repeat 70-80% of their source pages. Other than that, it is rather unclear to me why Media in Karachi was at all created in absence of sourced literature. Is it sort of promotion of the city, as the editor's edit history seem to suggest? Anyhow, I believe a deletion discussion is warranted. kashmiri TALK  16:40, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * List of newspapers in Karachi
 * List of magazines in Karachi
 * List of radio stations in Karachi
 * List of television stations in Karachi
 * List of newspapers in Pakistan
 * List of magazines in Pakistan
 * List of radio stations in Pakistan
 * List of television stations in Pakistan.
 * Delete all the above "x in Karachi" lists as unnecessary forks. The "x in Pakistan" pages simply aren't long enough to warrant splitting into per-city lists.  (For the other articles I've WP:BOLDly added deletion tags pointing to this discussion.  If the nominator disagrees, feel free to remove them.)  —Psychonaut (talk) 16:51, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment: If not "xyz in Karachi" then "xyz in Pakistan" lists are really encyclopedic. Instead of "xyz in Karachi" if they create "xyz in Sindh" which is a province in which Karachi situated, then province level and nation level lists of such stuff are encyclopedic. -- Human 3015   TALK    17:03, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Agreed in general, but hope you agree having such lists on a city level would be an overkill. "List of TV channels in Multan", "List of newspapers in Bahawalpur"... Lists can sometimes come round handy but should never replace Categories. Regards, kashmiri  TALK  17:27, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Bur Karachi is not a minor or small city. It can also deserve separate article for each stuff, it can be improved. Karachi is 2nd largest city in world. If you see List of countries and dependencies by population nearly 150 countries in the world have less population than Karachi city. Maybe "x in Multan", "y in Rahim Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 23:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)Yar Khan" are non-notable but for Karachi it can be. Though I am not insisting for City level articles if not much info is available on them but Province level and Nation level can be kept for sure. -- Human 3015   TALK   19:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Having a city level list or article is not an issue per se. But it only makes sense if the main country list or article needs a WP:SIZESPLIT for the list. This may actually work for Media in Karachi. And I'll be ok with changing my !vote for that if it can be significantly improved with WP:RS. -- lTopGunl (talk) 19:26, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Comment. Karachi with nearly 20 million multiethnic and multilingual population has huge media presence. What about the List of newspapers in London or List of New York City television and film studios ? Do we also have a discussion of deleting or meging all city level media lists ? All these city level lists can also be tagged for deletions. WikiBulova (talk) 19:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * It's the size of the lists, not the size of the city, which is at issue here. Please don't tag other city-related lists for deletion in retaliation for this nomination.  That would be viewed as further disruptive editing on your part. —Psychonaut (talk) 21:09, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    17:05, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  Human 3015   TALK    16:59, 1 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect (and not delete) to X in Pakistan lists respectively as the main lists are encyclopedic and Media in Karachi to Media of Pakistan. Simply redirect if there is no new content. Per Psychonaut, if a split is warranted due to length of the main lists, it can be done at that point. The titles are good candidates for redirects. -- lTopGunl (talk) 18:39, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds sensible. As the nominator, I would like to support your suggestion if change of mind is allowed. kashmiri  TALK  22:15, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  18:14, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete as unnecessary content fork. There is no new content, and there is no need to shorten the Pakistan media lists. No redirects are needed, regardless of how cheap they are. --Bejnar (talk) 21:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, unnecessary content forks. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 23:20, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep I would have added more information and references but since this Deletion request I have not added any more info. Kashmiri has also started to wiki stalk me and edited pages that I usually edit and marked pages I created for deletion. Now he is also being investigated for being a sockpuppet WikiBulova (talk) 01:36, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Kashmiri had a malicious SPI opened against him by a chronic violator of the NPA policy all because he (Kashmiri) and another random user disagreed with the chronic violator. In addition, that SPI and the supposed Wikistalking you claim here (which is unsubstantiated as of now) are irrelevant to the AfD discussion. MezzoMezzo (talk) 03:36, 15 December 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.