Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Media in the City of Thuringowa


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. Yamamoto Ichiro 会話 05:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Media in the City of Thuringowa

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Basically, WP:NOT. I see a really bad precedent when we start having articles like this on a single local government area. Also, with the exception of one, none of the publications and media outlets listed are exclusive to the City of Thuringowa. The LGA is only part of the catchment of the listed newspapers and TV and radio stations which broadcast to a much wider area. A casual reader may be misled into thinking Thuringowa is much bigger than it actually is.

Another article, Media in Townsville exists, which is possibly the main (bad) rationale for a keep. (I'm guessing that the creation of this article was slightly pointy following a dispute between two editors which has since moved on). Regardless, Media in Townsville would be better renamed to Media in North Queensland and I have started a discussion on the talk page there, but that is a slightly separate issue. &mdash;Moondyne 14:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)


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Also when is this Thuringowa deleting going to stop as it is going overboard now and enough is enough. Thuringowacityrep (talk) 00:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails general notability, no reliables to back it up. I think that the articles information is well contained in Media in Townsville. Twenty Years 17:01, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom - if we had one for every LGA we'd have a serious problem. Orderinchaos 17:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Covered in Media in Townsville. -- Mattinbgn\talk 21:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Media in Townsville. All those media outlets are aparantly also distributed in Townsville and the Thuringowa LGA is being merged with the Townsville LGA so Media in Townsville more than does the job. --Nick Dowling (talk) 23:22, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Media in Townsville. Not because the LGA is being merged, which as far as I'm concerned is irrelevant, but because both cities get essentially the same media coverage.  Lankiveil (complaints 23:53, 18 January 2008 (UTC).
 * Keep or Redirect Here we go again yet another page about something in Thuringowa that I some input in and it is up for deletion (just more proof that so called editors has an issues with Thuringowa and/or me) once Thuringowa as a city is merged with Townsville then all this sort of thing can be sorted out as I have said before and I will be moving a lot of the info about Thuringowa over to the Townsville page but it seems that we have this great rush to do it all now, as for it not having general notability, well this would mean that the Media in Townsville page is the same but yet that page is not up for deletion is it...funny that, also I have seen many large cities that are LGA's have this info on the main page or how in a list on it's own page linked back to the main article, just like this page has been set up, If it was to be merged I feel that until March when Thuringowa as a city ends, the Townsville media page needs to be re-named Media in Townsville and Thuringowa or media in Townsville-Thuringowa.Plus if a casual reader is misled into thinking Thuringowa is much bigger than it actually is, so what, they just need to click on a link to the Thuringowa city page and have a read (that what a casual reader does) and that reader will see that Thuringowa has around 63'000 people and this is not grounds for a delete, the same as the Les Tyrell page, 7 people say keep 3 say delete and it gets deleted, that isn't right and i can see the same thing is going to happen here...unfair.
 * Question: Respectfully, what is the differences in media available in Thuringowa and Townsville (apart from the council newsletter)?. If there are significant differences, then I'd say this almost certainly worth having an article, but based on the currently available evidence, that does not seem to be the case.  I say this as someone who voted "Keep" on the Les Tyrell article (not knowing it was a copyvio).  Lankiveil (complaints 01:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC).


 * reply to Question Fist of all Thanks you for your Keep vote on the Les Tyrell page and it was not a copyvio it was re-written with other info added for the info on the Thuringowa website and other websites that were added as Ref's and it was wrong that it was deleted, but that's not the issue now...yet another Thuringowa page is....you are correct to say that the differences in media available in Thuringowa and Townsville aren't that much but the page was started because the Townsville media page kept having anything Thuringowa removed from it when it was added, (it was going to be a page about the media in both Townsville and Thuringowa) so in order to stop the ongoing BS I started this page and put a clear point at the top of the page about most of Thuringowa's media is Townsville based, just doing the right thing I thought. After March 08 I will have no problem with this page being moved or whatever but until then I can not for the life of me see why it needs to be deleted, and again like I said above, if the Townsville media page gets a name change to Media in Townsville and Thuringowa or media in Townsville-Thuringowa then fine....yet again can anyone tell me what the big hurry is to get rid of Thuringowa articles, because i am sick of putting in hors of my time for nothing.Thuringowacityrep (talk) 05:21, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment the definition of 'Townsville' used in the Wikipedia article on the city is "The urban centre known as Townsville is part of two local government areas, the City of Townsville and the City of Thuringowa". AFAIK, it's common to combine the two entities into a single city, even if that isn't technically completely correct. The reason these articles are being deleted is that they're on topics which don't pass the relevant wikipedia notability guidelines. Wikipedia is not a web host, so if you want to create a super-detailed Thuringowa page you might need to set up your own website. --Nick Dowling (talk) 06:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Reply to Comment I'm more than happy for it to be added in with the Townsville media page but not while the page is only for Townsville media, However if you all wait untill after March i will remove the page myself (as i am going to do with a few seeing how the "city" part of Thuringowa will be gone) but it again come's back to...what is the big rush, this page has been fine for the last year and it just seems funny how all of a sudden so many Thuringowa pages need to be deleted (you have to admit it does seem odd) right after an editor got ticked off at me. Thuringowacityrep (talk) 07:42, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 *  [comments moved to user talk page as they are off-topic for this debate. &mdash;Moondyne'' 07:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)] ]]
 * Delete per nominator. This is essentially a directory of not notable local media services. And other than the council's newsletter, mentioned above, it seems to be a fork of Media in Townsville. Sarah 02:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as per others. no strong case for this article's existence. Note: this is not being anti-Thuringowa, just being consistent with elsewhere in Wikipedia. It's a bit like living in Penrith where all the main media is the same as rest of Sydney except a few local radio stations and newspapers. Michellecrisp (talk) 06:39, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Virtually no unique content; exists for the sake of it. Rebecca (talk) 01:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Media in Townsville which covers exactly the same information in a detailed manner with the exception of the Thuringowa Council's monthly bulletin. &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 11:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


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