Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medinge

This entry is well-written like everything by the same contributor, but delete for non-encyclopedic subject. Medinge is a Swedish 18th century (or so) mansion-house standing in it's own grounds, in other words it's today your typical refurbished conference center, and as the author states, it's "little known, even in Sweden". I live in Stockholm, I'd never heard of the place. Also delete entry for  being promotional, since its primaray purpose is surely to mention and link to "the international Medinge Group think-tank", see next post, plus to provide an external  link to the commercial website of the conference center  (which independent research shows is owned by Tomas Gad, mentioned in the Medinge group entry listed below). Hello again, Stombs, I'm guessing 203.79.67.84 was you before you registered, wasn't it? I hope you don't think I'm trying to make you feel unwelcome with all the VfD listings. You are very welcome to Wikipedia and I'm sure you'll be a valuable contributor. Please don't be discouraged! You've made a lot of edits in just a few days, most of them very useful, and, man, you work fast -  what are you trying to do, rival User:TheCustomOfLife? Oh, and the VfD isn't really the ideal place for communicating with you, so the sooner you create a userpage, the better. Then people will be able to leave you messages, tips and kudos there. Remember, we do want you as a contributor. Bishonen 09:07, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Delete: A thorough nomination again, with little room to debate. Delete for the reasons given by bishonen.  Geogre 14:49, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Retain, I hope: can Medinge Group be removed if that is more a promotional problem? I have been told that there is a bit more than the mansion there and there is a sign; some loggers work there and there are neighbouring properties. I'm not sure what road, etc., it's on but I can find out more. Of course, I'm happy to defer to the locals. Stombs 23:07, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
 * Merge & Redirect to Medinge Group for now, unless someone has info an any architectural notability of the manor (if it is a reasonable well-restored 18th century Swedish manor house, then it would be notable for that). -FZ 16:10, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * Keep. --Dittaeva 18:54, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 * My guess was a little early, the present mansion was built in 1820. It's no doubt well restored on historical principles, because that's the big selling point of the 18th-19 c mansion conference centers: conservation, ambience, culture, history, see the staircase where the ghost of the lady of the house appears on the stroke of midnight according to reliable local tradition. I've conferenced at a few of them, they're lovely. But there are a lot of them. I tried Swedish Google for slott + konferens and also herrgård + konferens and got screen after screen of names, some of them well-known and a few household names for Swedes (as I've said, Medinge isn't one I've heard of). Abandoning the compilation of stats for these searches after a poweruser relative explained to me what a misconceived idea that was, I'll just say that in boating due west from Stockholm on Lake Mälaren, I've seen maybe 20 similar mansions along the shores in one day, with their characteristic white color and solitary, wooded placement, typically a couple of miles in from the waterfront, also well-restored-looking and no doubt conference-housing. Stombs, I know your motives were good in creating an article for Medinge, but I still don't think it's very notable. Merge and redirect would be OK by me, if the Medinge Group entry survives - see that discussion for my argument that it shouldn't. Sorry for taking up so much of everybody's time. I'm definitely done about these two entries now. Bishonen 22:02, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)