Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medinge Group


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. COI is not a reason to delete an article, so we need to look at our company notability guideline - WP:COMPANY. Comments which deal with the points raised in that guideline are the most useful. The Keep !votes do not tackle the concerns raised about lack of independent coverage - also to be bourne in mind is the lack of involvement in Wikipedia by two of the keep !voters. Having looked at the sources used in the article, and those found on Google, I agree that the criteria in WP:COMPANY has not adequately been met. Some of the Google hits appear to be press releases, and some of the other sources only tangentially mention the Medinge Group. More substantial evidence of notability should be found before restoring the article. I will be willing to usefy on request, and advise on reliable sources.  SilkTork  *YES! 14:25, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Medinge Group

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Non-notable think tank, lacking independent coverage. Fails WP:CORP. Article created by an editor who also created articles on its director Jack Yan, and the magazine Lucire owned by the same business person. Smacks of WP:COI. Kept at VfD, way back in 2004 before we had any clear guidelines for inclusion. Pcap ping  01:13, 19 February 2010 (UTC)  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ( X! ·  talk )  · @143  · 02:25, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sweden-related deletion discussions.  -- Pcap  ping  01:16, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete per nomination; this is an international think-tank of marketing and branding experts whose chief business is apparently to confer a non-notable marketing trade award. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 15:17, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment Obviously my word won’t mean much here given I am a director, and I have an inkling of who the editor was. To answer the press coverage point, I can think of this one by a Hindustan Times paper and Wall Street Journal affiliate (an interview with our CEO), and we got a two-page spread in Resumé (well respected Swedish trade paper) on August 22, 2002. There are a few others in the mainstream Indian press in 2007 or 2008, but from memory they were in Hindi. Happy to find these for you on request, as they are offline. Jack Yan (talk) 21:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note Added a few references, viz. interviews with CEO Stanley Moss. Jack Yan (talk) 13:07, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The original creator of this entry is listed as User:203.79.67.84 and quoting WP:COI because the same IP Address shortly after created the entry for Lucire is by no means proof that they where created by Jack Yan, I would ask Jack Yan when he was appointed as a director of Medinge Group. Dean(2bitwannabe) (talk) 22:08, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Note I was appointed a director in 2006, though I seem to recall the paperwork was not done till the following year. Jack Yan (talk) 22:16, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep I am a member (but not a director) of the Medinge Group, so need to declare that interest. I question the phrase "smacks of COI".  The article is not adulatory.
 * Keep. References in the article indicate notability. -- Pink Bull  14:06, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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