Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medio Ambiente y Urbanización


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Environment & Urbanization. Content can be merged from history if it can be sourced.  Sandstein  20:38, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Medio Ambiente y Urbanización

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I couldn't find many independent sources about this journal (but it exists) nor could I find it in Scopus, so I believe this fails WP:NJOURNALS and WP:GNG. It is unsourced, which is why I don't understand it was accepted through AfC. Chris Troutman ( talk ) 06:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academic journals-related deletion discussions.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 06:50, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Environment-related deletion discussions.  Chris Troutman  ( talk ) 06:50, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * This is a successful and highly regarded urban journal produced since 1983 – and with the last 13 years of its issues available open access on Ingenta (one of the leading publishers of on-line journals).  If you search in Google Scholar, you get many papers from this journal listed with citations’ details. I suspect that it is not in SCOPUS because SCOPUS does not seek to include Spanish language journals--Rhino209 (talk) 07:54, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep the nominator's evident inability to search for sources in Spanish is not the article's fault. Our page on the daughter English publication Environment & Urbanization which shares content amd editorial control IS well referenced and clearly notable so why would it's older Spanish mother be non-notable? The publisher International Institute for Environment and Development is also notable. The nomination is also not correct - the page has a source and more can be added. I accepted the page based on the notability of the English version with the same editors and much of the same content. If the nominator feels really strongly that the spanish version is not notable they should merge and redirect to the existing Environment & Urbanization page. Legacypac (talk) 09:09, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Environment & Urbanization. Like Chris, I'm amazed that an unsourced stub made it through AfC. There is absolutely no evidence that this is "successful and highly regarded" and contrary to what claims, Scopus does include journals in other languages than English (as do the Clarivate Analytics databases). Looking at GScholar I don't see anything indicating notability. Some articles have received some citations, many more haven't been cited even once. That the sister publication or the publisher are notable is absolutely irrelevant. In short, there's not a shred of evidence that this is notable and how someone can !vote keep for something that is completely unsourced (with only an external link to online content) is beyond me. Any worthwhile info present in this stub is already present in the article on the sister journal, so a merge is not necessary. Unless significant sources turn up (in Spanish or other languages), this is an utter fail of NJournals or GNG. --Randykitty (talk) 09:41, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 02:28, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge and Redirect to Environment & Urbanization. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:15, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge to Environment & Urbanization. Useful and topical material in that context, but there does not seem to be enough notability for a standalone article. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Please note that the article is unsourced, so merging is only possible if a source can be found for this content. --Randykitty (talk) 21:10, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Environment & Urbanization \\\Septrillion:- &#8237;  10 Eleventeen 20:50, 6 July 2018 (UTC)


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