Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megaleh Amukot


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep - at the moment there is ambiguity over the identity of the author of the subject which restricts the redirect options. However, what is clear is that there is a consensus that the work is notable. (Non-admin close). Smile a While (talk) 22:21, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Megaleh Amukot

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Delete unsourced one-line article about a work from a rabbi, who we don't have an article about, but is unlikely to be someone of such note that all his works are inherently notable. No other indication of notability or much context on what this work is about, how long it is, why it matters. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 23:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC) *Redirect per Longhair. Culturalrevival (talk) 02:29, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.   — brew  crewer  (yada, yada) 23:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, classic Kabbalistic work by a rabbi we actually *do* have an article about, Nathan Nata Spira, who was chief rabbi of Jerusalem in the 1600s. The stub was just created two days ago, give it some time for expansion and sourcing. -- M P er el 03:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: actually this will take further investigation to sort out which Nathan Nata Spira wrote this (there are several, all in the same Spira rabbinical family, descendants of Rashi). The article needn't be deleted so quickly before allowing time to adequately expand and source.  To start with, Jewish Encyclopedia gives the following sources about the Nathan Nata Spira who wrote this work (his primary work): Azulai, l.c. i. 148; De Rossi-Hamberger, l.c. p. 301; Steinschneider, l.c. col. 2049; Zunz, Monatstage, p. 41; Zedner, l.c. p. 610; I. M. Zunz, 'Ir ha-Ẓedeḳ, pp. 52, 176. -- M P er el  04:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect -- to Nathan Nata Spira unless there's sufficient verifiable content to expand this article. - Longhair\talk 03:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - many of the references to this work, both on Google web and Google books, refer to the work by name only, without referencing the author. Possibly should disambiguate -- Jonathan Schorsch cites another work with the same title. Yudel (talk) 04:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Nathan Nata Spira until something can be said about the work. e.g. when was it written, what it deals with, what its impact is, why it is special, and so on. -- Fullstop (talk) 05:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Nathan Nata Spira per Longhair and Fullstop. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: the problem w/redirecting, which I think people aren't reading my note above, or perhaps I was too ambiguous, is that on further investigation the author of this work appears to be a different Nathan Nata Spira than the Nathan Nata Spira in the article we have. There are several notable Nathan Nata Spiras in the same family of rabbis and it needs to be sorted out which one wrote this work. -- M P er el  02:44, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as a stub on a notable subject as confirmed by sources found by Google Books and Scholar. As MPerel says this is by an older Nathan Nata Spira than the one on which we have an article, so redirection would be inappropriate, and anyway that's a subject for the talk page, not AfD. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per MPerel. Culturalrevival (talk) 12:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per above. Bhaktivinode (talk) 13:49, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well known mystical text. Requires reliable sources however. -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 22:01, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.