Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Megiddo (Lauren Hoffman album)


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The result was   no consensus. Black Kite (talk) 17:32, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Megiddo (Lauren Hoffman album)

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Non-notable album, fails WP:NALBUM. ukexpat (talk) 14:20, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. Artist is notable, and there are at least two reviews in reliable sources. --Michig (talk) 21:34, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * But the question here is whether the album itself is notable. 1292simon (talk) 12:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 15:09, 8 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Cheers, Ri l ey   00:05, 11 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mediran  ( t  •  c ) 00:08, 18 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep Two whole reviews from WP:RS? That's three more than 99% of all standalone album and single articles here. Certainly notable enough to get past WP:NALBUMS, regardless of chart performance or lack thereof. § FreeRangeFrog croak 01:17, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The first source is just a product description and the second source only mentions the article in passing. 1292simon (talk) 13:03, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, the reference in there points to a review of the other album, it should point to this. Agree on the second ref, I didn't notice it was written by the author. § FreeRangeFrog croak


 * Keep - Can people leave Lauren Hoffman's albums alone? Her album articles as well as her biography page need EXPANSION, not deletion. Same thing as I said on Choreography's AfD page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrmoustache14 (talk • contribs) 2012-12-18 03:16:08
 * And from what independent reliable sources do you propose this can be expanded? You could make a pretty much watertight argument for keeping if only you actually addressed that one point. Uncle G (talk) 16:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. Independent sources do not indicate it is notable. Note that the CD Universe source should be considered a primary source since it is a Product Description, not an independent review. (it is amusing that an article claims to be notable when the article's intro says "it went relatively unnoticed"!) 1292simon (talk) 12:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be about record sales, not documentation. And CD Universe is actually, upon reading it, a combination of snippets from reviews and a statement from the artist.  It does indicate where the real sources can be found, though.  The complete text of Ben Ratliff's review of Megiddo, for example, rather than that 8 word snippet, can be found in the New York Times archives, dated 1997-10-03.  The review in the New Yorker is longer than the snippet given, too, and mentions Fiona Apple. Uncle G (talk) 16:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. Here's the coverage I found: Reviews from Allmusic and Les Inrockuptibles, and probably one from Le Figaro from 1997, plus further coverage from Keeping It Tight in the Old Dominion: A History of Virginia Rock Music, Billboard, The New York Times. That's plenty. --Michig (talk) 20:04, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
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