Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mehdi Nassouli


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:39, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Mehdi Nassouli

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This article is about a non-famous musician with very little press coverage and notability. James Richards (talk) 19:59, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Hello James, I am from Morocco and therefore know this singer (and other Moroccan singers) more than you do. The fact that you say this is a "non-famous" musician is actually not a fact, but your opinion, unless you can prove that fact.
 * Mehdi Nassouli participated in many international festivals (as stated in the article, for instance Womex, Mawazine, Rainforest, Essaouira Gnawa Festival), and appeared on Moroccan Official National TV, on Moroccan 2nd Official National TV and even on Lithuanian TV. It is definitely fine that you do not know him (nobody knows everything), but it is definitely not fine to state that he is nor known just because you don't know him. I hope that you understand the difference, and that next time you ask for more sources or references and people will be delighted to share their culture with you :) Thank you for understanding and have a good evening so far. Best regards. Anass Sedrati (talk) 21:18, 24 June 2020 (UTC)


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 * Comment for now (leaning toward Delete) - The above exchange about whether or not the musician is famous, based on whether you have or have not heard of him, doesn't really get us anywhere. A possible WP:NEXIST oversight countered with the WP:ILIKEIT fallacy. What matters is the notability requirements at WP:SINGER. All of the sources added by the pro commenter above are mere announcements and reprints of press releases, which do not get past criterion #1. I can find no significant and reliable coverage in English. I am willing to hold off on an official vote if anyone can find and discuss reliable sources in other languages that I have missed. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (Talk&#124;Contribs) 00:44, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Dear doomsdayer520, you might see that the singer we have talked about appeared on national televisions at several times, including Moroccan Official National TV, on Moroccan 2nd Official National TV and even Lithuanian TV. He is also notable for participating in many international festivals (as stated in the article, for instance Womex, Mawazine, Rainforest, Essaouira Gnawa Festival). The fact that there are no sources in English about the singer do not imply that he does not deserve an article in the English wikipedia, especially that English is not widely spoken in Morocco. Here for example you can see an article from the very known and reliable french newspaper Le Monde about Nassouli, where he is qualified as breathtaking. No to mention the extensive coverage he has in the national Moroccan level nationwide, in different Arabic speaking supports including Alyaoum 24, hitradio, MAP (the official state press agency), 2M Moroccan State TV and many others. I hope that it helps. Best regards. Anass Sedrati (talk) 17:27, 25 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been removed from the list of Africa-related deletion discussions (Morocco is transcluded there anyway). 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:13, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Puzzledvegetable Is it teatime already?  20:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:MUSICBIO - no Independent sources show evidence of touring outside of a small area (Morocco/Mali). Of course, if you find anything significant, please ping me. Bearian (talk) 21:48, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. With respect to the efforts of Anass Sedrati above, even acknowledging systemic bias, the subject of this article still does not appear to be notable enough for his own article. Considering the Arabic sources linked above, none of them meet the definition of significant coverage. The first couple of links even acknowledge that he's not receiving significant coverage in Moroccan media, and contain the artist's explanations as to why that might be. Either way, there's not enough material to write a comprehensive article that complies with the verifiability policy, because none of the sources (even in Arabic) appear to discuss his music or his impact on Moroccan culture or the music scene, etc. –Darkwind (talk) 08:54, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


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