Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mehdy Karbid


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  00:24, 10 April 2023 (UTC)

Mehdy Karbid

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No indication of notability per WP:GNG or WP:NTENNIS as he did not compete in any of the main ATP tournaments. Claims of competing in GHI Bronx Tennis Classic are unsubstantiated. ... disco spinster   talk  15:32, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Tennis and United States of America. ...  disco spinster   talk  15:32, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:20, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 20:21, 26 March 2023 (UTC)


 * These issues have all been addressed, including proof of participation at the GHI Bronx Tennis Classic and other events that have Wikipedia pages.
 * There are many tennis players with a lot less experience than Mehdy Karbid and with a Wikipedia page that has not been questioned. All results are substantiated and included on both the ATP Tour and ITF Tennis website. He has reached a world ranking of 1000 in the world in doubles, along with all of his other achievements. He is a well known figure in his birth country, Morocco, and has done enough in and for the sport to be included, both as an athlete, coach and entrepreneur. There are lots of other tennis player and athlete pages that should have raised way more questions compared to this one.
 * Mehdy competed extensively in the ITF Futures circuit, which has a Wikipedia page; competed at the ATP Challenger Tour level, which has a Wikipedia page; competed at the GHI Bronx Classic, which has a Wikipedia page; competed at the Forest Hills Tennis Classic, which has a Wikipedia page; competed at the Tangier Challenger tournament, which has a Wikipedia page. These all have significant notability. One can’t just walk in and participate in those events. You actually need to earn your place through talent and accomplishment, hence notability.
 * I believe all issues should be resolved at this point and the deletion request is unwarranted. Tb18midd (talk) 22:05, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete as he fails WP:GNG and WP:NTENNIS. I found on his ITF profile that he received a doubles wildcard to the 2002 edition of the GHI Bronx Tennis Classic but just participating in a Challenger tournament does not mean that a person is automatically notable. No sources were found during a quick search in regards to his business endeavors either. Adamtt9 (talk) 01:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:41, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * The doubles wildcard is not something that is handed, but earned. When Andy Murray, Serena Williams, or Emma Raducanu receive a wildcard in a tournament, it is for a good reason too! Furthermore, he has participated in several Challenger events. If these events don’t matter, how come they have Wikipedia pages? Same thing for the ITF Futures events.
 * The fact is that the person has participated in the tournaments mentioned, and has achieved a Wild ranking of 1000 in doubles. Which is much higher than a lot of the athletes with Wikipedia pages.
 * Anyone who knows tennis also knows that when playing at this level, you are 100% notable, not only because of the high level of play, but also because of the fans who request autographs, pictures and meet and greets with the players, including Mehdy Karbid.
 * As far as the business endeavors, unpaid articles on Forbes are proof enough. Many top tennis players in the world with Wikipedia pages have have been sponsored by his company, Loriet Sports. In addition, Steel Supplements, where he is the CFO, is one of the largest Dietary Supplements brands in the world.
 * With proof of participating in tournaments that give notability, with a high and proven World ranking, and an article on Forbes, there shouldn’t be any issue with this page; otherwise, we might as well delete the Wikipedia page of all tennis players who never made it in the top 1000 in the world, or the page of any athletes in other sports who didn’t play in one of the major leagues in Europe or the USA, depending on the sport. For example, all MLS players should just have their Wikipedia pages removed, except for the few international stars, since all these other players are not even in the top 2500 in the world. Same for most of the soccer players in Africa, Asia, Oceania, and South America. We could do the same for all the other sports too!
 * Reviewers should never make a judgment call about something they do not clearly understand. The citations, proof or results and participation, are the only facts that matter here, which is why this profile meets the guidelines as defined by Wikipedia. Tb18midd (talk) 08:25, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete - does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NTENNIS. Onel 5969  TT me 20:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete plainly fails WP:NTENNIS. Pichpich (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2023 (UTC)


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