Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mekayla Diehl


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) Lourdes  03:49, 9 September 2016 (UTC)

Mekayla Diehl

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I think it is now agreed that winners of Miss Indiana USA are not notable for that in and of itself. The article hypes that Diehl is Native American. However since 0.3% of Indiana's population is Native American, it would not be unexpected that no winners of Miss Indiana USA had been Native American until the pageant had existed for over 200 years. Since Miss USA started in 1951 and not 1816, this does not make her notable. I also do not think the gossipy sources about her body size constitute the type of RS sources we would need to justify actually having an article. John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:51, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Beauty pageants-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


 * If found to not be independently notable, redirect to Miss Indiana USA as a valid search term, and the subject is mentioned there. North America1000 05:02, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: I see an LA Times reference, a CBS News source, a Fox News source and an ABC News source among a DOZEN references! p  b  p  18:10, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep: As aforementioned by Purplebackpack89 there are many sources to this, and this was a historic moment for Miss Indiana.  There is no legit reason for it to be deleted especially when her win was historic.Mcelite (talk) 21:14, 2 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete -- a WP:PSEUDO biography on an individual notable for WP:BIO1E. Consider being praised for a "normal size 4 body":
 * "Nia Sanchez, the winner of the 2014 pageant, stated that Diehl is no different than the other athletic pageant contestants she competed against. "I felt like this year we had a really healthy class of girls, and that’s what the pageant is about, not being skinny and having the clothes fall off your bones, but being fit, healthy and active. And Mekayla is," she said. "We were at the gym working out together. She was telling me how she does different sports. We all do." Diehl has ignited a wave of positivity encouraging women to be healthy and not go to extremes of having unhealthy habits to be skinny.[5]"
 * This is indeed tabloid-like content that's not adding value to the encyclopedia. K.e.coffman (talk) 04:25, 3 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep as per PBP.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:54, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per PBP --- PageantUpdater (talk) 00:42, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment -- the national coverage is on the same story, being a "normal" size 4: Daily Beast. The event (being on stage as a size 4) is what's being covered, not Miss Diehl. The Daily Beast article uses the incident to reflect on society, such as:
 * Our society has a major issue with quickly categorizing people when it comes to body image. If a girl is too skinny—she’s called out for being a “bag of bones” or slapped with an eating disorder label. If she’s too fat, she’s considered “unhealthy” or “obese” (or worse, “tractor-sized” or “a hippo,” as Oscar-nominated actress Melissa McCarthy was once called). With our obsession for calling out celebrities, fashion models, and the like for being too this or too that, how is it that we’ve now found ourselves becoming enamored with a woman who is in fact thin—just not overly so? I agree—Diehl is gorgeous. And she has a healthy physique not normally seen in pageants that she should be applauded for. But is she “normal”? No. She’s still skinny.


 * This is still BIO1E and the amount of stories does not matter since they all refer to the same event. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:25, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * To paraphrase someone in another AFD - there are so many I can't remember where - how can "one event" cover her winning Miss Indiana USA, a yearlong reign and appearances, competing at Miss USA, and the media that came after it? --- PageantUpdater (talk) 00:35, 5 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep All claims of WP:BIO1E against almost all beauty pageant winners are invalid. They win a State or National title, then, separately go on to compete at the next higher level.  Equate this to WP:NSPORT where every athlete has to qualify at their preliminary level before going to a major competition.  In this case, she won Miss Indiana and then competed in Miss USA.  2 Different events on two completely different dates.  For Mekayla, her appearance at the Miss USA event set off a Twitter storm that resulted in coverage by all the major American television networks, interviewed by Elisabeth Hasselbeck on Fox and Friends, The Today Show, Good Morning America, Entertainment Tonight, most of them involving individual on-camera interviews. Trackinfo (talk) 08:59, 5 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Comment -- the coverage related to "size 4" are all trivial mentions and lack WP:PERSISTENCE. Wikipedia is not WP:NEWS re: Twitterstorm, but requires a balanced biography, which I do not see here. The sources do not rise to the level of encyclopedia notability. And Miss USA is not Olympics for all contestants to be considered notable for just participating. K.e.coffman (talk) 00:30, 7 September 2016 (UTC)


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