Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melbourne Heart Football Club


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The result was   Keep,  timsdad   (talk) 11:37, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Melbourne Heart Football Club

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Not officially an A-League club, fails WP:N per WP:CRYSTAL. The only source given only states that the current bidders will attempt to sign a player if the team is ever incepted into the league. See the discussion at the Wikiproject. timsdad  (talk) 09:04, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The Herald-Sun seems to think the club is notable, see here "The new A-League franchise ..." -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:46, 18 August 2009 (UTC) Further "The FFA granted majority shareholder Sidwell the 11th A-League franchise to develop a second club in Melbourne for the start of next season" and Set to make its A-League debut next season, the team is keen to use the Lexus Centre as one of several training facilities, but it would identify the Collingwood HQ as one of the main planks of its operation." All these seem to me to be reliable independent sources, unless someone can explain otherwise. -- Mattinbgn\talk 09:49, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

see timsdad, i told you it WAS in the herald sun thank you mattinbgn for finding this information —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattm859 (talk • contribs) 09:50, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Mattinbgn\talk 10:00, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, but you didn't have to resort to being very uncivil about it in this edit on my user page. All I was asking was for a good source to prove the actual existence of the club. I wasn't "pushing" for the deletion of the article, I just nominated it to get a few more opinions. And that's what we got... Thanks Mattinbgn. -- timsdad  (talk) 10:23, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * After a copyedit of the article, it still appears to me that there aren't any sources confirming the inception of the club into the A-League. Surely we can all agree that if the A-League had officially taken on an 11th club, there would be many articles dedicated to just that news. So far, all we have to go on is the one line: "...Heart, which will play in next season's A-League..." from the Herald Sun article which is mainly about who the "club" is chasing down and then goes on about who other clubs are releasing. -- timsdad  (talk) 10:44, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment More sources here and here and here and here and here. All articles dedicated to that news about the "club" (great use of sneer quotes) getting the licence. -- Mattinbgn\talk 10:53, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment And from the official A-league site "Buckley also welcomed the 11th licensee who will join the Hyundai A-League in 2010-11, currently known as ‘Melbourne Heart’ and backed by Peter Sidwell." -- Mattinbgn\talk 11:01, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Confirmation from the Victory captain here -- Mattinbgn\talk 11:06, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Right then, thanks for all of the sources, they should be plenty to set up a nice article on the bid of the club. However, is it officially a "club" yet, or rather a franchise and still does not have a team in the A-League? We can't really state in the article that the Heart is an A-League club if it hasn't been officially incepted. -- timsdad  (talk) 11:15, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

I recommend continuing this discussion here as I'm no longer interested in deleting the article. Thanks, timsdad   (talk) 11:31, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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