Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melodic black metal


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The result was   delete. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:54, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

Melodic black metal

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Essentially original research. Article has been tagged for references since 2006, and OR since 2007. The term is obviously in use (as a swift Google amply demonstrates) but the word "melodic" is almost exclusively being used as an adjective qualifying "black metal"; there is no single source that I can see (barring a couple of self-published essays on webzines or blogs) that states explicitly that this exists as a genre. What we currently have is an entirely OR characteristics section (that I have been unable to verify anywhere) and a rather crufty, POV list of notable acts that attracts genre warriors. At best, all that can be said about melodic black metal is that it is black metal that is somewhat melodic, which is rubbish even as a dicdef. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 13:43, 14 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Total OR. Yet another fairy tale music genre on Wikipedia. The Real Libs-speak politely 13:59, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  14:51, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete and redirect to Symphonic black metal. That's what all those symphonic stuff are for: to provide the melody. --Bardin (talk) 16:38, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * If that's the case, I think a simple delete will suffice. If there are no sources then why claim symphonic black metal as the best redirect? This is WP:OR in itself. FireCrystal (talk) 23:58, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I'm in agreement with FireCrystal... there's no source stating that melodic black metal and symphonic black metal are synonyms. If made into a redirect it should be to the main black metal article. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 12:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Redirect to black metal instead. I agree there's nothing worth merging from this article. --Bardin (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect and merge to black metal instead. FireCrystal (talk) 21:28, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment In all fairness, I considered merging first but couldn't see anything to merge. I'm not convinced it even deserves a mention in the main article; if this gets deleted, so should the subsection in black metal. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 21:39, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Symphonic black metal per Bardin. I do not see sufficient differentiation between the genres to merit separate articles and there is no question this article is a OR hive.  Grandmartin11 (talk) 23:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete since this isn't verified by anything, and it ain't symphonic black metal either (no orchestral instrumentation, for instance). There is nothing worth merging; the entire article is OR. Drmies (talk) 00:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete: no reliable independent sources, WP:OR. JamesBurns (talk) 03:17, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:MADEUP (about to find out if "madeup" is a redirect yet).Bali ultimate (talk) 03:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.