Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Melody B. Choi


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The result was delete.  Sandstein  16:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Melody B. Choi

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WP:TOOSOON and does not meet WP:ENT yet. Her film roles are either minor/supporting roles or if she did star in anything it was for a non-Wikipedia notable film. Note that even though the bio said she starred as Mary in Santa Paws, she did not have poster block billing. Sources provided are mainly databases like IMDb. AngusWOOF ( bark  •  sniff ) 17:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
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 * Comment no prominent roles in terms of billing so it looks like delete but there is a claim at imdb that she won a Young Artists Award as well as two other Young Artist nominationsAtlantic306 (talk) 18:11, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * It looks like she won one in the 32nd Young Artist Awards for Gunless but she did not have a billing block appearance in that film. But yes, she did get one. Is that enough to keep her around? It's not an award at the level of WP:ANYBIO though. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:22, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Think it does count as an anybio award as they are regarded as the young actor's oscar but to pass there still needs significant cov in reliable sources and a quick search found no rs Atlantic306 (talk) 18:47, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
 * That might be enough to keep her around then. Let me see if I can fashion an awards section for her. Still having trouble finding coverage on her other roles. Saw a book that said she was nominated for Santa Paws. AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:52, 27 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete. Even if a person does have a potential ANYBIO pass on the basis of an award (which is uncertain in the case of the Young Artist Awards), that still doesn't hand them an automatic inclusion freebie that exempts them from having to have any reliable source coverage in media — even the question of whether or not an award is notable enough to ANYBIO its nominees or recipients depends on the extent to which the media do or don't cover that award's nomination announcements and winner presentations as news. What I'm not seeing in this article, however, is any strong evidence of reliable source coverage about her at all — the article is referenced almost entirely to blogs, IMDb, primary sources and a Twitter tweet, and the only two acceptable sources both just namecheck her existence — one of them, further, solely in the caption of the promotional still, and not anywhere at all in the actual article — without being even slightly about her or her performances. Even if a person does have a potentially valid claim to passing a notability criterion, their includability still depends on the extent to which the article can or cannot be properly sourced — an article does not get to rest on crap sourcing just because a notability claim has been asserted — but the sourcing here isn't cutting it at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:58, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
 * the IMDb photos and sources provided so far are merely to verify that she was in the films and shows presented, as well as the events, so yes, they are primaries for the most part. They aren't helping much for her general notability.  Also, if you're questioning whether we can use IMDb that way, please discuss at Wikipedia_talk:Citing_IMDb AngusWOOF  ( bark  •  sniff ) 18:21, 30 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   09:14, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Strong delete It is high time we started to use reliable sources for Wikipedia, not IMDb.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:33, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


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