Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Membrane method of gas concentration


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The result was redirect to Membrane gas separation. Content can be merged from history.  Sandstein  17:16, 15 March 2020 (UTC)

Membrane method of gas concentration

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Completely lacking in reliable sources for over 12 years. No sources in any searches. If a source can be found, there may be place for a paragraph in Nitrox, but this should never be a stand-alone article. RexxS (talk) 02:04, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. RexxS (talk) 02:04, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Merge and redirect to Membrane gas separation. It is the same technology, probably just a niche terminology problem. (assuming there is anything of value to merge) otherwise just a redirect will do. Finding sources is mainly a matter of using the mainstream terminology, then Bingo, we have a real if rather technical encyclopedic article on Wikipedia already, complete with a fair number of solid looking references. &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 05:05, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Sounds a good alternative,, although Membrane gas separation is a very different article from this one (probably because it has sources!). The  Membrane method of gas concentration article seems to have been used over many years simply as a coat-hook for a couple of manufacturers to hang their nitrox concentration products on. Cheers --RexxS (talk) 16:41, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * The current content of this article is a description of one type of membrane gas separation system specifically used for oxygen enrichment of breathing air. I am reasonably confident that it is a fairly accurate description given these limitations, and could be referenced by the link you removed as spam. Not the greatest reference, but not the worst by far. Manufacturers of industrial equipment usually describe the working of their products reasonably correctly, and it is not promotional in tone. Also, it is content that the existing Membrane gas separation article lacked, and I have been having a go at expanding it a bit to cover air separation applications. I have found a few potential sources, but it is largely unfamiliar technology, so I am not very efficient processing it. Cheers, &middot; &middot; &middot; Peter Southwood (talk): 19:49, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm quite confident that the current content is an accurate description of the process, but neither your nor my confidence is tantamount to a reliable source (sadly). My objection to the Nuvair source is that it is promotional. The opening sentence of the webpage begins "Nuvair's patented semipermeable membranes ...", and the second begins "Purchase a membrane system as a standalone product for integration into an existing air compressor system ...". That doesn't disqualify it as a reliable source for other parts of its content, but is not the kind of source I'd be prepared to base an entire article on. It's worth noting that the article's first source was Coltri Sub Asia Pacific, before it was switched to Nuvair without explanation. That shows how vulnerable a poorly sourced article becomes to anyone wanting to promote a particular company's offerings, and we shouldn't be leaving ourselves open to that. Putting the content into a well sourced, larger article, as you've already done, is the way to dilute the effect. --RexxS (talk) 20:49, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:06, 7 March 2020 (UTC)


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