Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Men in This Town


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. L Faraone  01:23, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Men in This Town

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Song has not been released as a single and is not an exceptionally prominent song from the album. It is mentioned that the song was a worldwide hit in the article but that is not sourced. Already, Shakira articles are not faring well and more unnecessary articles will not help. WonderBoy1998 (talk) 06:40, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  06:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  06:49, 2 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete, no critical reviews, no charts, it seems to fail notability for songs. WikiRedactor (talk) 23:31, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Doesn't meet N, merge what can and combine for better coverage and scope of the existing articles. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 01:02, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Sure. There's may be no reviews on the song itself, but there has to be at least some critical responses in reviews of the album. Also, there's no way that the song could have it's own article if only chart information of the song was found. According to WP:NSONG, the song is notable if it "has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the artist and label. This includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, other books, television documentaries and reviews. This excludes media reprints of press releases, or other publications where the artist, its record label, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the work." Sure the album reviews will do, and the background and recording sections, and the composition info already here, will do. EditorE (talk) 20:20, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If the article is kept, then the topic She Wolf Shakira Album would be composed of She Wolf (song), Did it Again (song), Give It Up To Me and Gypsy, all of which are singles, and then suddenly there's Men In This Town, which is just a non-single track. Readers may question the fact that why weren't all the other non singles included there, and just a song which is not even notable and didn't even chart anywhere? The article is unnecessary and is of no need. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 05:38, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe because the song was going to be a single, and there's a lot of info here why it wasn't. Other non-singles would not have this info, so I don't find it unnecessary this article be here. EditorE (talk) 11:49, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * If not delete, then I suggest a merge. The article can easily be merged into She Wolf (Shakira Album) and all the speculation that the song was to be released as a single can be included there.. --WonderBoy1998 (talk) 17:14, 15 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. Article could use some more work, but the content already on the article satisfies WP:NSONG to me. — Statυs  ( talk,  contribs ) 00:13, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Michaelzeng7 (talk) 01:20, 9 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete fails WP:NSONG. This could be covered in the album's article. —  Diva    Knockouts   00:53, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I'm sure that's untrue. In fact, look at the article More than This (One Direction song), and notice that the song had no reviews, but still have critical reception in reviews of the album the song was in. Sure the same can be done here. Also, a lot of background info and composition info is pretty good for the article to be on it's own. EditorE (talk) 02:00, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
 * "More Than This" charted in international countries, "Men In This Town" hasn't. It doesn't have any independent reviews. I see only one reference that is about this song only from Billboard. The rest are about Shakira or the album, thus all this information can be covered in the album's article. —  Diva    Knockouts   18:43, 10 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. I agree with what has been said on the deletionist front. At face value, this article looks legit and well sourced, indeed it looks professional to say the least. But the reality is that no other songs from the album get the same attention, except the other four singles obviously. It would appear that this article has been written to reflect ones infatuation for this particular song, however Wikipedia should have a balanced projection and not give undue importance to select songs. Agendapedia (talk) 15:36, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.