Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mercedez (porn star)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - brenneman  04:28, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Mercedez (porn star)

 * Keep it is well sourced and has links to prove her existance and a career and is she not a Vivid girl. Here are some links and Miss Nude World Pagenet to find out about the Miss Nude Universe Dwanyewest 11:42, 5 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Going back to Reliable sources, http://www.myspace.com/ninamercedez is not a source to be used in wikipedia. http://www.missnudeworldpageant.com is not even relevant to the case in hand. not a single source in the article meets WP:RS. Mercedez name in Miss Nude Universe article is not sourced. it should be removed from that stub. WP:LIVING is clear about three points 1- Verifiability, 2- Neutral point of view (NPOV), and 3- No original research. the article does not meet any criteria. --Tarawneh 04:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like an autobiography, UNSOURCED, NOT NOTABLE Alnokta 18:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep. Needs to be extensively copyedited, it definitely reads like an autobiography.  The subject, however,  seems to meet WP:PORN BIO by virtue of being miss nude universe in 2003 and being in penthouse in 2000. Mystache 19:06, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes the article reads like an autobiography, but no WP:RS source proves that the subject was miss nude universe in 2003 or was in penthouse in 2000. --Tarawneh 04:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm against deleting the article, deleting it may be considered to be against the free write of wikipedia, someone who don't like this article dosn't mean that it should be deleted, Alnokta you have made a lot of problems in arabic wikipedia because you don't like this kind of articles and someone has translated this article to AR-Wikipedia, PLEASE DONT BRING PROBLEMS TO HERE. Amjad Nashashibi 20:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Arguments about how deleting articles infringe one's right to free speech don't wash here. See What Wikipedia is not.  And the rest of what you wrote isn't even about the article at all.  If you wish to make a case for keeping the article that will hold water, please (a) address the article, not the editors; and (b) cite sources to demonstrate that the article's subject satisfies our Criteria for inclusion of biographies.  There are no independent sources cited in the article, and you have not cited any.  Uncle G 20:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * comment. Alnokta is a well respected Admin on ar.wiki. He never had any thing to do with the Arabic article on ar.wiki, never edited it, its talk page, or any article related to it. Sadly the same can not be said about Mr.Amjad Nashashibi, who gave us hard time with his copyvios -- ar:Tarawneh, Admin checkuser and berurcrat at ar.wiki, admin on Commons 21:09, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * comment. I don't say that Alnokta or Tarawneh are irresponsible or didn't contributed much in the Arabic Wikipedia, but I dont see the reason for involving arabic issues about porn or any subject which some of the admins who don't like it with the english wikipedia,cause there is a vast deference of point of views between people who don't like/(may not respect) other views, freedom of speech and freedom of writing. in other words it is a clash of cultures (you can read more in Dr. wafa sultan article Dr. Wafa Sultan Article). I would like to post this links for anyone who wants to verify the information in this site:-http://www.siliconslave.com/articles/34.html http://www.g4tv.com/themanshow/features/53400/Mercedez_Bends_Adult_Film_Star_Mercedez_Revs_Up_The_Man_Show.html?warning=y and the sites in the article. I would like to say thanks to all the admins in the arabic wikipedia for their hard work and their great contributions.Amjad Nashashibi 22:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * What? arabic issues about porn or any subject!, clash of cultures ?. Man wake up, This is wikipedia. Penthouse had 12 issues on 2000. November 2000 issue talked about was the only issue to feature a Mercedes, but that was the one and only Mercedes Lynn. Google all mighty was not able to link Mercedez with www.penthouse.com. And please can you give me a link to an official miss nude universe website that points to Mercedez as miss 2003 --Tarawneh 22:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you contact me in msn, snamjad.t2@gmail.com Amjad Nashashibi 22:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article needs work, but the subject meets WP:PORNBIO and is also notable outside the field for her appearances on the Porn Valley reality series on one of the American cable networks. 23skidoo 21:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete No reference to an official miss nude universe website that indicates the subject was ever miss nude universe in 2003. Penthouse website provides no link to indicate that the subject ever being photographed in 2000. The criteria in WP:PORN BIO is not there for fun. No links to awards, never been a Playboy Playmate, or Penthouse Pet. No single reference to any title in any magazine. No reference for any new trend in pornography. No reference for blockbuster feature by industry standards. No references for any appearance in multiple times in notable mainstream media outlets. No reference for an any original film named after the subject. The page provides three links, all are referring to words claimed to be said by the subject, or the subject web-page. Please, refer also to my earlier discussion. --Tarawneh 02:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete: We have a series notability issue here. Who is this lady? Wikipedia is not a directory of all people in the world. IMDB lists anyone and everyone and per nom. Considering the Arabic issues about porn or any subject, the Arabic Wikipedia welcomes articles about Paris Hilton for example but not just anyone. --Meno25 12:23, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment article needs clean-up by other editors. If the person is less notable then a lot of the persons already in, so we have to delete all of the articles, not just particular one. The criteria of WP:PORN BIO is really not for fun. But I think the article should Keep for a while, maybe some other sources should be presented. --MaNeMeBasat 12:48, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
 * We both seem to agree that the article name is not accepted, and if no other sources are quoted, we should delete this article --Tarawneh 04:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete unless sourced... Addhoc 20:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.