Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meridian Mall, Dunedin


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The result was   Withdrawn Good Heymann work here. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Meridian Mall, Dunedin

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No reliable sources. Claims to be the largest mall on the "southern south island", but no sources back that up. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 02:27, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malls-related deletion discussions.   —Dravecky (talk) 05:31, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Claim has been made for notability. Just needs to be properly cited. lk (talk) 06:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Very strong keep. Lack of citations is not a reason for deletion. The Meridian Mall is indeed by far the largest mall in the southern South Island, and IIRC the third largest in the South Island as a whole. This makes it highly notable by New Zealand standards, so unless your intention is to increase systemic bias by proposing articles based on standards of only one country, this is not an article which should be deleted. Unfortunately, though the Meridian's size has been used frequently in its own advertising and though I know from visiting all of the island's main malls how it ranks, there seem to be few if any online sources and I can't use my own observations or the mall's own advertising as they would be regarded as "not secondary sources" and OR respectively. I shall attempt to track down news reports from the time of its opening to verify the claims, but that will ned hunting through the microfiche at the Dunedin Public Library, so may take some time. Grutness...wha?  07:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions.   —Grutness...wha?  07:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep as notability appears to have been reached although more citations and some expansion are certainly needed here. - Dravecky (talk) 09:29, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep: reliable sources added. Regular mentions in the news: 36 news articles from the Dunedin Public Libraries Southern Regional News Index, ODT    , Stuff.co.nz   , NZ Herald       , Scoop   . The claim about largest in the southern South Island is a distinct topic and ought to be tagged with  not AfD. It may have just recently been overtaken by the Remarkables Park. Meridian and Remarkables are the only 2 southern South Island malls listed in the 2008 RCG mall survey (criteria >10,000sqm). XLerate (talk) 12:56, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. AFDs like this are proof that AFD isn't totally a worthless place... sometimes articles are actually improved here, rather than bickered over. Kudos to XLerate and Dravecky for apparently meeting the The Heymann Standard. --Rividian (talk) 14:21, 18 August 2008 (UTC)


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