Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Merivale (company)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. RL0919 (talk) 05:46, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Merivale (company)

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Article is basically a list of largely non-notable hotels and restaurants with most of the cites about the company's owner rather than the company or its assets, propose redirecting to Justin Hemmes. Bromptop (talk) 05:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. North America1000 05:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Weak keep Seems to not be that notable, but there are some articles out there about it. For instance here here and here having to do with a class action lawsuit by their employees. I'm not sure what's notable about the company besides that though or if it warrants an article or not. So, weak keep. --Adamant1 (talk) 06:30, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong keep. It's a billion-dollar national hospitality business that was notable before its current family scion, Justin Hemmes was even conceived. It's much more thoroughly documented in reliable sources than your average large businesses because both Justin Hemmes now and his parents before that seem to attract media coverage whatever they do and have for decades. The current state of the article is crap but AfD is not cleanup (even for notable business empires) and I'd rather a trip to the dentist than to have to spend the day documenting 80 years of socialite hospitality business history to stop a notable topic on a subject I fundamentally don't care about getting whacked. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 06:38, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable company, crap article. There is lots that could be added, starting from this obituary of its founder. WWGB (talk) 06:49, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong keep There is no doubt that the company is notable. There are sustained and broad ranging sources going back decades, and in other languages too, eg |||q-type0=phrase|||q-term0=John+Hemmes|||q-field1=title%3A|||q-type1=all|||q-term1|||q-field2=creator%3A|||q-type2=all|||q-term2|||q-field3=subject%3A|||q-type3=all|||q-term3|||q-year1-date|||q-year2-date dutch.  My dilemma was should it be kept or WP:TNTed.  Given the importance and profile of this company, I have decided on keep.  (Why this has not been cleaned up a long time ago is puzzling.)  Aoziwe (talk) 11:58, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Someone randomly redirected it to one of their venues some time ago (despite the fact we have articles on quite a few, it was a very strange redirect) and I undid it this week given their obvious notability. The Drover&#39;s Wife (talk) 12:01, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Strong and snow keep - what is with the nomination of well-known Australian companies this week - does no one do any research on these things before nominating them? This one is so obvious that it goes without saying - a 2 second Google search would reveal it has significant notability. I'll assume good faith given the state of the article (noting that AfD is not cleanup, and noting that Drover's Wife recently undid an improper redirect) but this one really needed to be thought through more. Bookscale (talk) 12:05, 22 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep, agree with all of above editors. Coolabahapple (talk) 00:18, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment Lots of passionate keep votes, yet little action in addressing the 'crap article' issue. Have rewritten in an attempt to deal with some of the issues and errors. Bromptop (talk) 02:46, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment As the larger problems have been addressed, happy to change my vote to a keep. I believe I cannot withdraw an AfD nomination once made, but as it appears that the consensus will be to keep, probably won't influence the outcome anyway. Bromptop (talk) 06:04, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - thank you Bromptop for taking editors' comments on board. If you can't withdraw an AfD (I don't know what the process is or isn't) you can ask an administrator to procedurally close the AfD - there have been no comments supporting deletion other than your nomination so there is clear consensus to do so. Bookscale (talk) 09:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - and thank you for fixing up the article. Bookscale (talk) 09:20, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * hi, please see WP:WDAFD about withdrawing nomination. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:26, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. A company with 2500 employees not notable? Seems most unlikely.  Schwede 66  09:12, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. Another case of WP:BEFORE. AfD is not clean-up, but this has been much improved, and notability is now clear. Edwardx (talk) 11:27, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


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