Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Merlin and the Book of Beasts


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Close, but consensus seems to be that the reviews just aren't enough. ansh 666 07:44, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

Merlin and the Book of Beasts

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Non-notable "TV Movie". The first few pages of google hits is all routine stuff, no notable reviews or anything else which might confer notability. Very little in the actual article, just a plot synopsis and a cast list. No references at all, just an external link to the IMDB entry. Neiltonks (talk) 12:24, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. TMGtalk 14:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. TMGtalk 14:50, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep has reviews in reliable sources such as a Dutch film magazine and DVD Talk as shown here with these links passes WP:GNG Atlantic306 (talk) 21:14, 1 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sarahj2107 (talk) 18:21, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:43, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - no substantial RS here. Deathlibrarian (talk) 11:36, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 02:04, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete - can't find coverage of the film apart from listing sites and some reviews from non-notable critics, therefore fails WP:NFILM. Hzh (talk) 16:00, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. This isn't the strongest keep, however I think that there's just enough here to just barely push it over the ledge. As far as I know, Something Awful's reviews have usually been seen as a reliable source on here since they're so limited - the site doesn't allow just anyone on the site to post a review ala IMDb, for example. It looks like there was a Radio Times review - there's a star rating and they typically do written reviews as well, although this seems to be missing from the page. There was also a review from the OK Gazette and DVD Talk. Not the strongest, but it looks like it does pass barely. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡)  18:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Whatever the Radio Times review may be, it does not qualify under WP:NFO that requires . Similarly all the others found also fail as they are not by nationally-known critics. Hzh (talk) 11:21, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Nationally known tends to change depending on the type of film. DVD Talk is a pretty well known and respected outlet and as stated before, Something Awful has typically been seen as a known review outlet. The OK Gazette may not be as big as say, the New York Times, but it is something that's relatively well known - we use it for sourcing in general, for example. I'm not sure why a news article from them on a topic would be a reliable source while a film review from them would not. As far as reviews not being enough to establish notability, I'm not sure if notability standards have changed that much in the year or so I've been away from AfD, but they've always been enough in the past. ReaderofthePack (｡◕‿◕｡)  13:37, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete – you need more than just reviews to show that a TV program is notable. And just reports on "production" info doesn't cut it either. Ideally, you have both reviews and "production coverage", and possibly other types of reporting/coverage beyond that. This one is just an overwritten 'Plot' section, with a few reviews tacked on. There needs to be more than this to be considered "notable". (In general, many TV movies do not meet the requirements of notability for standalone articles.) --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Subject fails WP:NFILM. -The Gnome (talk) 09:17, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.