Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mesivta Ohel Torah


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  06:20, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Mesivta Ohel Torah

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Not notable per WP:NSCHOOL, that is, per WP:ORG or WP:GNG. All I can find about it online is similar to what's here: passing mentions in articles about other things, and routine school listings. Proposed deletion last week was contested without comment by the article creator. Wikishovel (talk) 09:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Schools, Judaism,  and New York. Wikishovel (talk) 09:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Education-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:50, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  11:59, 26 February 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, asilvering (talk) 03:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Bearing in mind that high schools used to (before ) be considered inherently notable, I have added what I believe to be just enough coverage to get this school over the top. It is listed and mentioned in various independent sources, including U.S. News & World Report, and this mention might fit the definition of WP:SIGCOV. Note that the school goes by a few different names and spellings including Mesifta Ohel Torah, Yeshiva Ohel Torah and Yeshiva High School of Monsey.  Stony Brook  babble 21:36, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
 * thank you for all the work you put in on this, but although the sources you've added are reliable, they only provide passing mentions of the school. We need to find significant coverage of the school itself, per WP:GNG. Wikishovel (talk) 14:38, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Hence, the weak part of my !vote, and why I linked the RfC in it. But the closers of that same discussion also found that it "[stopped] short of a rough consensus" on the question of whether to grant inherent notability status on secondary schools. They went on to say that if a normal-depth search fails to find any evidence that the school exists, the article on the school should be deleted without the need for a deeper search. While no one is saying that every school is inherently notable, I think we can agree that a) there are more than enough sources here which demonstrate that the school exists b) enough can be gleaned from these sources to write at least a stub article about it. In the U.S. News & World Report I found basic information such as the school's address, type, and enrollment; from other sources I found some basic history about the founders, names of head teachers and controversy about getting the dormitory approved by the local authorities. In my view, the above constitutes WP:SIGCOV in the strictest sense of the term. Contrast this with another school that I found which has a very similar name to this one, except that the source for it only provides an address, and nothing more.  Stony Brook  babble 18:57, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Final relist. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 06:00, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep, though a stub, it seems to have a good couple of reliable sources, even if they only mention it in passing, to the point of being reliable. I can do stuff !  (talk) 03:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete run-of-the-mill school that fails to satisfy the criteria outlined in WP:ORGDEPTH. In a WP:BEFORE search, it did not yield significant coverage from reliable sources, except for some passing mentions, profile listings, and a few unreliable sources that are insufficient to establish notability. GSS &#x202F;&#128172; 15:47, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.