Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mesoras Mordechai


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Telshe yeshiva.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 01:06, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

Mesoras Mordechai

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There is no assertion of notability. It is a small yeshiva in Beit Shemesh with no WP:RS or even a strong assertion of what makes it special. Joe407 (talk) 07:03, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions.  —Joe407 (talk) 07:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - I would like to hear also voices about the general notability of small yeshivas. As was discussed atWikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism, there are lots of there floating around.  Do we need an article about every 25 guys learning with their rebbe in a refinished Jerusalem apartment?  Joe407 (talk) 07:09, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - The notability of small yeshivas is the same as notability for anything else, as described at WP:N: significant coverage in reliable independent sources. This article provides no such sources and good faith searches didn't turn up any.  Being a foreign-language subject and one I don't have any cultural background in it's very possible I missed some, so if some turn up please feel free to invite me to reconsider my vote. - DustFormsWords (talk) 09:53, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator. Debresser (talk) 15:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Telshe yeshiva and add there more yeshivas that have spun off with the Telshe derech (style of learning).
 * To DustFormsWords: This yeshiva is not doing anything different than any other yeshiva; its Torah journal is also something published by other yeshivas.
 * To Joe407: My first thought was to give this a listing under List of yeshivas instead of a whole article, but then, a 25-student yeshiva does not belong in the same list as 5,000-student Mir or thousands-student Ponevezh. My second thought was to make a new list for "100 students and less", but then, as you say, that would get clogged with hundreds of these little yeshivas. I would say that as long as it garners significant news coverage (such as Yeshivas Bais Yisroel does as a small, overseas yeshiva for American students), it deserves its own page; otherwise, it doesn't. Yoninah (talk) 17:24, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Merge to Telshe yeshiva and add there more yeshivas that have spun off with the Telshe derech (style of learning). After some thought I feel at heart that I am an inclusionist and that the info in this article should be kept in WP (at least part of it).  If I recall correctly there are a few other yeshiva that would together make a nice "Branches" section in the Telshe article. Joe407 (talk) 14:11, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Just so you know, you can't vote to delete and then vote to merge it. Please either strike the vote or remove your nomination. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 18:53, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.