Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Messi Goals Career


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The result was delete. postdlf (talk) 15:15, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Messi Goals Career

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Regardless of how notable a footballer is, a list of league goals is not notable (WP:NOTSTATS). While Wikipedia does have lists of goals scored, those are goals scored in international completion by footballers who are or were the top scorer for their nation. Anything worth keeping from this list can be merged into Lionel Messi. — Jkudlick • t • c • s 05:40, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * Question Do we have an article on his international goals? If not, could this article be refactored to that? <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> 05:51, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * List of international goals scored by Lionel Messi — Jkudlick • t • c • s 05:56, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Well then delete and redirect to that. <b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b><b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b> 06:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete - not even worth redirecting. GiantSnowman 07:01, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - total statistical overload, definitely not needed. If by any chance it gets kept, needs a new title..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per WP:NOTSTATS, simply because someone has scored a large amount of goals does not mean we need an exhaustive listing of them. Furthermore, inclusion criteria for such a list a re difficult to pin down (e.g. why would we not include youth team games?). No need for a redirect either with the article title in mangled English and therefore an unlikely search term. Fenix down (talk) 08:46, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Wikipedia is not a statbook. Also hard to define as Fenix down noted. — <b style="color:#FFCC33">Yellow</b> <b style="color:brown">Dingo</b>&#160;<b style="color:BLUE">(talk)</b> 10:36, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete or possibly redirect to Lionel Messi, but as pointed out the grammatically incorrect title makes it an unlikely search term – yep, I brought this to the attention of WikiProject Football here a few days ago and was planning to take the article to AfD based on the comments there, but you have beaten me to it. Aside from WP:NOTSTATS and the fact it is (mostly) unreferenced, someone pointed out that it's a bit suspicious that he seems to have scored every one of his goals before the opposition scored, if you read the table in its current form. And in any case these aren't all the goals of his career, just the Spanish La Liga ones, so the title is misleading. Richard3120 (talk) 00:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above. SLBedit (talk) 20:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)


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