Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Messianic complex


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The result was Merge to God complex. —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-23 08:40Z 

Messianic complex

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No Verifiability, unfortunately basis for similar articles on other Wikipedia projects. Definitely not “Mental illness diagnosis by DSM and ICD.” Polarlys 00:57, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to God complex.-- TBC Φ  talk?  01:00, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * 1. God complex: Also no adequate verifiability; 2. Redirect still supports concept formation. --Polarlys 01:05, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * God complex has multiple sources (although I agree it's not adequate). Note also the difference between verified and verifiable.  The god complex article is certainly the latter (and partly the former as well).  Also, redirects do not necessarily support concept formation.  They are intended to make searching easier.  Redirecting from George W Bush to George Bush does not support the formation of the former article when the latter already exists.  -- Black Falcon 01:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Is it possible to redirect these to WP:CRANK? --Dennisthe2 01:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to God complex. -- Black Falcon 01:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. YechielMan 01:44, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - what is the difference between Messianic complex, God complex, Christ complex, and superiority complex. Not that I want to know here, but if this gets merged/redirected, where does it go?  It seems to me that it and Christ complex might be the same, and might be subsets of one of the other two.  I'm not sure. Smmurphy(Talk) 01:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'd venture that Messianic complex is thinking or acting like one has come to save the world, while God complex is thinking that one can control the world. But individuals probably vary--best merged and expanded. There is material to be found. DGG 02:35, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Redirect - God could be any monotheistic God. Messianic implies only Judaism or Christianity.  Therefore "God complex" is better terminology and already exists. Chupper 04:13, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to God complex (along with Christ complex) - overlapping concepts. - WeniWidiWiki 04:57, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. I think "Christ complex" is the Christian religion-oriented version of the Messianic complex, which as DGG has noted, is different from a God complex.  The term "messianic complex" exists and has use in professional circles (see  and ).  I do not think we should merge "messianic complex" into "God complex" as the former may manifest itself as a martyr complex rather than a superiority complex (this is all based on my quite fuzzy understanding of the precise meanings of the terms).  I suggest we entertain two proposals (please add others or revise these if you like):
 * Proposal 1: Centralization
 * Merge God complex, Messianic complex, and Christ complex into superiority complex and leave the three merged articles as redirects.
 * Proposal 2: Separation
 * Merge Christ complex into Messianic complex, and keep and improve (or at least tag for improvement) the remaining three articles (which are conceptually related, but ultimately distinct).
 * What think ye? -- Black Falcon 03:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.