Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MetLife Bowl


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. v/r - TP 02:59, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

MetLife Bowl

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Non-notable NFL rivalry, the teams have only played in one game thus far in the "bowl" and it was a preseason game.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  20:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions.  —  Eagles   24/7   (C)  20:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * I tried to PROD this article in August, but when it was objected, I stopped to think that there must be enough for a Jets–Giants rivalry page, no? – Muboshgu (talk) 20:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per Eagles. There was no article for the Giants Stadium Bowl nor was there for the New Meadowlands Stadium Bowl. I find it is impractical to create the MetLife Bowl just because the stadium has a sponser for the next twenty years. I'd be more inclined to follow Muboshgu's idea and create a Jets-Giants rivalry page. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 21:57, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I would create that article, but really the MetLife Bowl is nothing more than a rewording of the Jets-Giants rivalry, if one does indeed exist. Of course, the article in question in this AfD has essentially no content other than the results of the one preseason game. My point is that I'm not sure if this should be moved to "Jets-Giants rivalry" and fixed up, deleted and a new page made, or if there is even any difference between those two options. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:05, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The only time the rivalry has truly been "intense" was when both teams played for the first time on August 17, 1969 in their little "turf war". Since then they have only met in mostly meaningless preseason games and do not meet enough in the regular season to form a rivalry similar to that of the Jets and Patriots. Furthermore, I highly doubt the bickering between over who is the little brother and who is the big brother is enough to warrant its own article. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 22:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * My attempt to present references suggesting a Jets-Giants rivalry, without further comment: – Muboshgu (talk) 22:50, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete – Don't think the MetLife Bowl itself can be said to be very notable, as it is a one-time preseason game as of now. It's not like the teams haven't been playing preseason games against each other for years now, because they have. The difference is that they weren't playing in a stadium sponsored by MetLife. The Giants–Jets rivalry may very well be notable enough for an article, but that's a different topic that would require a different emphasis. The preseason games as a whole are worthy of a mention there, not just this bowl game in particular. I normally prefer to see content kept and edited in cases like this, but here I think starting over from scratch will be the more effective method.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 00:14, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete it's an advertising ploy by Met Life. Met Life is notable.  The Jets are notable. The Giants are notable.  Nothing about this series is notable.--Paul McDonald (talk) 00:35, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You all say that pre season games are not included as rivalry or that there is no such thing as a MetLife Bowl and say that its just a one time thing at the moment. But you didn't read the articles where its stats that the game was named the MetLife Bowl name was given due to both teams co-own and play together at the stadium. There was no Giants Stadium Bowl cause the Giants owned the stadium and let the Jets play in the stadium after 10 years the stadium was built or so, and including that there was no New Meadowlands Stadium Bowl. There is a reason for that because the president of MetLife created the name, MetLife Bowl, I believe it was the president. It also stats that future games no matter pre season or regular season they will call the games MetLife Bowl, hell my be even the Super Bowl; if they would happen, To have some pride under the new name of the stadium. Manly the pre season due to they always play in the pre season. I bet future pre season games would be played the same way by letting their starters play most of the game.


 * Past history against the Jets and Giants can have a section in the MetLife Bowl as "Past Jets-Giants Rivalry" or "Before MetLife Bowl" or etc. Mr. Unknown (talk) 02:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Just because it exists doesn't make it notable.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  02:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In the Future it will, but why not get started now since the entire Staff of the Jets, Giants, and MetLife recognize it as a rivalry with the new name and in the future the jets-giants rivalry will be commonly know as the MetLife Bowl no matter pre season or regular season. Once again in the future it will be more recognize but why not get the page started now.Mr. Unknown (talk) 03:06, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Because it is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL to assume that this "bowl" series will become notable in the future.  Eagles   24/7  (C)  03:09, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So how far in the future can I or who ever wants re create the MetLife Bowl. Including is it possible at the moment to create a page for the full history of the Jets-Giants Rivalry since they should have a page because they are both NYC teams even thought they mostly play in the pre season and that they are both in different conferences. A similar page just like with MLB Subway Series. --Mr. Unknown (talk) 03:17, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The point here is the rivalry doesn't revolve around the company, plain and simple. Granted, MetLife is free to promote it as much as its hearts content BUT, that does not characterize the 'entire rivalry at all, it is just a name the company decided to slap on because they can. Now if the  page was the Jets-Giants rivalry then you could make a mention that they decided to name it the MetLife Bowl but this does not deserve its own article. -- The Writer 2.0 Talk 03:20, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats fine with go ahead and remove the page.--Mr. Unknown (talk) 03:26, 10 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete for the reasons listed above, though I may use those sources to create Jets-Giants rivalry after this is closed. – Muboshgu (talk) 02:13, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I have now created Jets–Giants rivalry. Flame away, or help improve it. Whichever. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:56, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
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