Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Metallica's Lollapalooza 96 Tour


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The result was   delete. Wizardman 13:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Metallica's Lollapalooza 96 Tour
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In a previous AfD most a number of Metallica's tours were deleted, this one was not bundled. While I had originally said in that AfD that an merge would be viable, the other articles were deleted and as I think now, I don't think an article of tour dates is particularly encyclopedic. There's no evidence that this was a notable tour for Metallica and there is no content, context. For the same reason I'm including the same no-context tours:


 * Escape From The Studio '95
 * Bang That Head That Doesn't Bang Tour
 * M2K Mini Tour
 * Shit Hits The Sheds Tour
 * Sick of the Studio '07


 * Wherever We May Roam European Tour
 * ReLoad Promo Tour
 * Poor Touring Me Tour
 * Poor Re-Touring Me Tour Continued
 * Nowhere Else To Roam Tour


 * Ride the Lightning Tour
 * Seven dates of hell
 * Metallica's Kill 'Em All For One tour
 * Damage Inc. Tour
 * Blitzkrieg 97
 * Garage Remains The Same Tour

I am explicitly *not* including those which establish context/content/notability as some tours might be notable. For the inevitable, what reason for AfD.. Wikipedia is not a directory of Metallica tour dates. Or any other band for that matter but I found the first of these in the backlog.TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 20:00, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.   —TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 20:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong delete - Per nom. No explanation is given for tour notability. Tenacious D Fan (talk) 13:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Lollapalooza was a package tour, so it's inaccurate to have an article titled "Metallica's Lollapalooza 96 Tour". I can certainly see an article being crafted about the 1996 Lollapalooza tour (I've personally been thinking of writing an article about the 1991 tour, given the number of resources I've found on the topic), but it wasn't a "Metallica tour" per se. They headlined a touring festival; it's a big difference. WesleyDodds (talk) 04:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Yeah I didn't understand the article when I first found it for basically the reasons you said. It's like a subset of one year of one tour. There appear to be some Lollapalooze by years and there is this: List of Lollapalooza lineups by year but I don't know that this is worth merging to either of those. IMO, doesn't appear it would fit. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 23:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment FWIW, during the Poor Touring Me Tour, Cunning Stunts was filmed. If you check out NewsLibrary.com and search for "metallica stunt" in 1997, you can see multiple newpapers that reported on individual stops on the tour.--Rockfang (talk) 10:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't disagree that there was news coverage of Metallica performing in City X but I question a) whether it's encyclopedically notable and b) whether a list of tour dates, which is all any of these are made of, is of any benefit. I think an article called Metallica tours could possibly exist of one line about each tour but tour dates aren't needed. That could be mentioned in Cunning Stunts, where it doesn't appear to be. I'm not sure filming a video makes a tour notable. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 23:31, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The last AfD for metalica tours had only 2 votes, both for merge. And yet the articles were deleted. I'd support a Merge as before, but i don't support removing the information from wikipedia entirely. The tour dates are useful for music journalists etc.Yobmod (talk) 16:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment It's useful? The closing admin, who said, Delete. WP:NOT#DIR. An overarching article might be possible, but these articles are just directory listings of shows apparently thought the delete arguments were more policy based. These have the same issues -- a list of tour dates is not encyclopedic. An article of lists without context is not an article, same issue of not being a directory. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 22:13, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Essentially the articles are laundry lists of dates - Wikipedia is not a directory. Also there is little or no context and notability is not evident.  nancy  (talk) 09:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NOT#DIR. Music journalists should not be using Wikipedia to confirm particular dates, since we aren't that trustworthy. Fee Fi Foe Fum (talk) 09:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


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