Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meth capital of the world


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tim Song (talk) 02:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Meth capital of the world

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Pointless, open ended, etc.--T. Anthony (talk) 09:42, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete (missing step 3). It is listed now. DumbBOT (talk) 15:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Rewrite and rename as "List of places referred to as the meth capital of the world". I guess this would be better as a WP:LIST, unless someone can find actual articles discussing the subject, i.e. the title and its significance. S HEFFIELD S TEEL TALK 15:54, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete - pointless indeed, and worse, quite a few of the listed places actually aren't called the "meth capital of the world". I also don't see how a list would satisfy any of the purposes set out in WP:LIST. Huon (talk) 17:27, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep The article does underscore the fact that "Meth Capital of the World" is a cliche that is overused by legislators, law enforcement officials and the press (a few years later, it's replaced by the equally cliche "former meth capital of the world", thanks, of course, to the efforts of legislators, law enforcement officials and the press).   Although some of the sources don't match up to the claim (in which case, the items should be removed), the topic is notable  and .  Mandsford 00:45, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * At one time I presumably agreed as, before I worked on it, this was just a redirect to Wasilla, Alaska and therefore likely just an anti-Palin joke. Still when working on it I found so many things are called "meth capital", and so much vandalism is encouraged by it, that it started seeming a bit pointless. Still maybe I can be convinced I'm wrong to give up on it--T. Anthony (talk) 01:46, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Wasilla accounts for more than 10% of the unique Google hits for "meth capital of the world" - showing that it's an entirely arbitrary moniker. A cursory look at that list of Google hits shows that apparently almost any place in the US (and Japan) has been so called. Huon (talk) 02:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
 * ... which explains why he undid the redirect and showed that almost any place in the US has been so called. Mandsford 19:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete as trivial occurrence of an entirely subjective phrase. of references provided, 1 is a 404, 2 others are not reliable. The phrase, of course, is meaningless on its face. little or none of the production or sales within these regions is going outside the country, where other manufacturers surely exist. this is a US specific phrase meant to emphasize to the local communities that its happening there, not just elsewhere. while there is considerable evidence that california is in fact the primary area of production, the phrase and the references provided are all just trivial information. If someone wants to add a paragraph to an article on the drug indicating this phrases use, fine, but no article. For an article on this or the phrase "meth capital of the US", we would need more than single refs per locale, esp with a broad area like central california.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Rename to Meth capital per this: .Biophys (talk) 06:10, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete Simply put, there are major legal and ethical issues with this type of declaration. A claim of something like the "Bratwurst Capital" or "Sunflower Capital" can easily be sourced and used as a positive thing. This is something that simply doesn't belong here at all, is completely subjective, may be the product of a moral panic, and is worst of all a slur against a community and giving them a reputation that will be poisonous if this gets into search engine results. We don't have a Cocaine capital of the world, a Heroin capital of the world, or LSD capital of the world article here; let's not create articles based on someone futzing with statistics to make a point in their locality.  Nate  • ( chatter ) 07:44, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, according to a Google search, Haight-Ashbury is or was the "LSD capital of the world." I wonder if there should be a redirect? *** Crotalus *** 17:20, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Re. As follows from the Google search, "Meth capital" is a stable expression (thousands hits). It does not matter if the expression was "positive" (Sunflower) or "negative" (Meth, ethnic slur or whatever). It only matters if the subject is notable and well sourced.Biophys (talk) 16:53, 24 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete per policy that Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The material can more appropriately be covered at methamphetamine, the article can have no value except as an attack article (albeit a fairly indirect one), and the list is unable to justify its own notability (unless there's been some sort of scholarly and critical analysis of the claim "X is the meth capital of the world" as distinct from merely meth use/production/purchase/supply rates). - DustFormsWords (talk) 07:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete as there don't seem to be adequate third-party sources specifically discussing the subject (as opposed to just using or repeating the phrase). This Slate article comes close, but we really need more sourcing than that &mdash; there isn't enough here to justify a whole Wikipedia article.. *** Crotalus *** 17:20, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.