Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mexican Federal Highway 18


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 04:08, 23 February 2024 (UTC)

Mexican Federal Highway 18

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I'm not sure this highway exists. The article doesn't have any information about where it begins or ends or what area it serves, and the only reference is to a general highway map of all of Mexico that doesn't seem to have a Federal Highway 18 marked on it. I couldn't find any other sources to confirm this highway is real either. TheCatalyst31 Reaction•Creation 02:06, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Transportation and Mexico. Shellwood (talk) 02:12, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment: The Spanish Wikipedia article on the Mexican federal highways has a nice table, and you'll notice that route 18 is conspicuously absent: . This article  on Fandom (!) says that the highway is only 5 km long and located in Baja California Sur, but I strongly doubt a source that is unreliable for culture would be reliable for infrastructure.  Apart from this, only WP mirrors found.  Leaning delete. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:31, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 02:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - Note the navbox at the bottom of the page. Also the talk page banners indicate this is ongoing project of both  WikiProject Mexico, and WikiProject Highways.   Category:Mexican Federal Highways. Stubs are a vital part of Wikipedia. Disagreements with that should probably be addressed to the individual projects overseeing this. — Maile  (talk) 15:05, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Also, a random look at various entries of highways, it looks like the sources are all Spanish-language PDF.  Inasmuch as the sourcing seems to be like that in all I've looked at, perhaps this really is a project issue, not an AFD issue.  What's the point in deleting a handful, when all the articles use that PDF sourcing as a basis? — Maile  (talk) 15:26, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm really confused, the person who bulk-created the article also automatically tagged the talk page with relevant wikiprojects. What makes you think the projects consider this an "ongoing project"? I'm also confused why you think "Stubs are a vital part of Wikipedia" is a justification for having an article on something that may not exist? Things that are effectively unsourced are not vital. I'm also baffled what I'm supposed to learn by looking at the navbox. That was also made by the article's creator and has nothing about sourcing. In fact, it links List of Mexican Federal Highways which does not even have number 18 on it! Reywas92Talk 00:41, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've failed to understand this reply, @Maile66! Does it exist or not? The article is technically blank (there's no content). And I can't understand how you have decided to mention WikiProjects as if they have anything to defend this article. Even the "ongoing project" term that you have used was unnecessary, as we all know there's no such thing happening, especially for a non-existent route designation. It's clear this article must be deleted. GeographicAccountant (talk) 13:20, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. Independent notability of this specific highway has not be demonstrated. Instead of creating a mass of stubs, it would be more productive to create one article about highways in Mexico, list individually notable highways within that article, and spin that off into articles should sufficient sourcing be shown. Cortador (talk) 10:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete due to WP:V issues. No notability issue that I can see, if it exists per WP:GEOROAD, but I also spent time trying to find any reliable source to suggest that it exists and came up empty. RecycledPixels (talk) 22:25, 22 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.