Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Meyer Schapiro Curriculum Vitae at Columbia University


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. WP:SNOW  MBisanz  talk 23:08, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Meyer Schapiro Curriculum Vitae at Columbia University

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As the title suggests, the page is a list of courses taught by Meyer Schapiro at Columbia University. I originally proposed the page for deletion (or merging to Meyer Schapiro in the form of a couple of sentences at best); endorsed the proposal with a comment of Wikipedia is not a resume service; Wikipedia is not a personal web site. However, the page's creator contests the deletion on the article talk page. ("Actually, art historians might be interested to see his trajectory as a teacher to understand his theoretical output." - ) Mike Rosoft (talk) 15:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. wp is not indiscriminate info. no links in or out. "All data was retrieved from Columbia University Bulletins, which can be located at University Archives at Columbia University's Rare Book & Manuscript Library." please leave it there unless it pertains to something else. Mystache (talk) 16:48, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Wikipedia is not a college catalog. If it is really important which courses he taught at Columbia, then very slightly merge into the Meyer Schapiro article. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 18:00, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Although Schapiro published little between 1931 and the 1970s (his short books on van Gogh and Cézanne being exceptions), he was extremely influential as a teacher and lecturer. A pre-eminent figure in the intellectual life of New York, he taught mainly at Columbia, where he was appointed assistant professor in 1936, associate professor in 1946, full professor in 1952, university professor in 1965 and university professor emeritus in 1973. He also lectured at New York University (1932–6) and the New School for Social Research, New York (1936–52). His lectures at the New School were particularly important for the artists of the then emerging New York school of Abstract Expressionist painting, which was soon to enjoy international acclaim.("Schapiro, Meyer" Grove Art Online. Oxford Art Online. Retrieved 1 Mar. 2009) [My emphasis.]
 * Delete per Metropolitan90. His time teaching at Columbia receives a sentence in his main article - any info here that's worth keeping, of which I suspect there is none, can be put in that article to expand upon that topic. fuzzy510 (talk) 23:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Wikipedia is not a course catalog... and especially not for courses that were all taught 80 years ago. Yes, it's kind of interesting that this information has survived at all, but not that interesting. We don't list the courses which Richard Feynman taught at Cornell and Caltech; the teaching work of a (relatively) minor art historian is no more notable. Zetawoof(&zeta;) 01:27, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  —David Eppstein (talk) 06:08, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete But I want to go on record as saying this sort of article should be adjudicated on a case by case basis. "Courses taught by Einstein at Princeton" might have more merit--not saying it does, just saying it might 7triton7 (talk) 06:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * delete per the above. If reliable secondary sources, independent of the subject, emerge to verify that there is serious academic interest in the trajectory of Meyer Schapiro as a teacher, then I'd reconsider.  In fact, if there's a course listed on the university calendar that has Meyer Schapiro's teaching at Columbia University as it's topic, then I'd change to "keep", I really would. Pete.Hurd (talk) 07:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete as the person who seconded the prod. This is a person's cirriculum vitae despite his no longer being alive, and Wikipedia is not a resume service.B.Wind (talk) 07:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Meyer Schapiro was indeed known for his teaching, among other things. Quoting a small part of the article on Schapiro in the Grove Art Online:
 * So what to do about this? I have to wonder at the vehemence with which some people threw themselves at this page. The page was proposed for deletion a few minutes after it was started. Why not take the brand new user who created the page gently by the hand and encourage him/her to use this material to improve the Meyer Schapiro article? Why not move the material to a user subpage where it can be developed to a fuller section on Schapiro's teaching and its significance, a section that could later be integrated into the Meyer Schapiro article? --Hegvald (talk) 19:33, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I believe he was prominent as an art historian and polymath, and his page here could do him more justice. Here's Noam Chomsky calling him "the art historian at Columbia who knows everything about everything."  Of course, new users should be encouraged and while this page's topic is unusual for the encyclopedia, per Hegvald, userifying it is a fine idea. John Z (talk) 08:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.