Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mher Khachatryan (artist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Alex ShihTalk 00:31, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Mher Khachatryan (artist)

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There is a claim for notability, but the only criteria that allows him to pass WP:CREATIVE is being part of Armenian National Gallery and here is the problem. The article does not even mentions him being part of the collection and more, it's just about some group exhibition held in the gallery. Other sources are not enough to establish notability Arthistorian1977 (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC) Arthistorian1977 (talk) 06:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Visual arts-related deletion discussions. AllyD (talk) 07:01, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Artists-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 09:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Reason for nomination is moot - the National Gallery of Armenia does not collect contemporary artists. The most current artist mentioned in the gallery collection is Aram Isabekyan (b. 1952). Other, contemporary sources clearly point to notability. Manc1234 (talk) 13:37, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Manc1234, Beside National Gallery of Armenia, and in case you are right, the information in article is intentionally wrong, there is no any other point, that may get him passing WP:ARTISTS. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 13:44, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Arthistorian1977, it does not benefit the encyclopedia to remove an article about a subject relevant to contemporary art couched in Armenian history. Khachatryan may not be the next Picasso, but he's producing and exhibiting work that encyclopedia users may see in the real world and want further context about. I believe in this instance, we should make an exception for the collection rule on WP:CREATIVE. Manc1234 (talk) 14:04, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Manc1234 It's not the case of benefit or not. There are rules, but there is a common sense as well. In his case, both rules and common sense tell he is not notable. Collection is just one of criteria of WP:CREATIVE. In order to pass, artist may meet only one of those criterias, but unfortunaltely he does not meet a single one. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 14:33, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Arthistorian1977, I've added a notability flag and I suggest we seek out Armenian experts before a final decision is made. There is a lot of content about Khachatryan on non-English language pages.Manc1234 (talk) 14:52, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I will be happy to change my mind in case there will be enough Armenian references, but for an Artist, living and working in USA for almost 15 years, I'd expect to see some English references. Arthistorian1977 (talk) 22:28, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment. The article claims his work have been exhibited in National Gallery of Armenia, but I red the reference provided in it's Russian version and it does not mention him as one of participants.Arthistorian1977 (talk) 22:30, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 04:40, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment Khachatryan has also appeared on many Armenian TV shows discussing his work:, , , , Manc1234 (talk) 02:27, 25 July 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Winged Blades Godric  04:13, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete - based on the sources (or lack of) that are cited in the article. They do not indicate notability and most are not RS: many (such as the artprize ones) are self-penned by the subject or (like the ArtSlant and miamitalentmag ones) are substantially text supplied by the subject or (like the vanderplasgallery one) have a commercial connection to the subject. Where are neutral RS independent reviews of the subject's work or sources in specialist publications? Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 14:02, 29 July 2017 (UTC)


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