Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MiG Arogan


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Yunshui 雲 水 13:52, 6 March 2020 (UTC)

MiG Arogan

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can't find any sources to verify the billboard claim, no other coverage and pretty much everything here is primary or unreliable. Praxidicae (talk) 16:26, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Caribbean-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 18:54, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:08, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
 * I think it is important to have voices from the Caribbean and from the hip hop communities help judge what is notable source material and what is unreliable. None of the citations are primary. I hesitate to delete articles like this when there are so many other articles by musicians at similar stages in career with similar, but English, sources not being flagged.--Heathart (talk) 20:16, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 10:03, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per Praxidicae. I am not finding reliable sources, and if the sources don't exist to write a good article, it shouldn't exist regardless of how much we like the article topic. buidhe 14:56, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete a non-notable rapper.John Pack Lambert (talk) 00:13, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per and for want of significant coverage in reliable sources. The sources might not be primary, but neither are they reliable. In 2020, everybody knows we are a charity whose mission is to write about notable people, places, things, and ideas, not a free web-host to lift up people. It's longstanding practice for the whole community, not just experts, to decide on notability. For what it's worth, I am a member of the executive committee of the Entertainment, Arts, and Sports Law section of the New York State Bar Association, I live in New York City, and have edited many articles on outsider artists who are nonetheless notable musicians. Bearian (talk) 14:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I am not sure that "everyone" knows what the purpose of Wikipedia is. There is such a long history of inprint items that look at some level and claim on some level to be encyclopedic but allowed people to pay to be included (such as Who's Who), so there may be some expectation that Wikipedia can be gamed as well. We also have articles that have existed for over 14 years that are actually just campaign brochures for candidates who were never elected, so it is still easy for people to get the wrong impression which is why we have to try harder to remove articles that do not fit our guidelines.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:41, 3 March 2020 (UTC)


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