Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miami 2017 (Seen the Lights Go Out on Broadway)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep it has WP:RS and passes WP:GNG   Yash  t  101   02:41, 4 May 2012 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

Miami 2017 (Seen the Lights Go Out on Broadway)

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Non-notable song, fails WP:NSONG and WP:GNG. Sum mer PhD (talk) 02:06, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep. There appear to be enough sources in existence to justify an article, and I will try to add them to the article during the AfD period. (The section paraphrasing most of the lyrics will probably have to go, though.) But at worst, redirect to Turnstiles, the album on which this song originally appeared, per WP:NSONGS. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 02:45, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - A bold-ish redirect to Turnstiles was reverted with the explanation "disagree re 'non-notable' - read section on 9/11". -  Sum mer PhD  (talk) 03:51, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - The events of September 11th, and Joel's memorable performance of it at the Concert for New York City, have added to the son's signifigance beyond its original release. --Klantry01 (talk) 12:42, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - Do you have a policy or guideline to base your "keep" !vote on? - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Wikipedia has articles on a great number of songs by various bands and artists. Whatever the notability bar might be, Miami 2017 has clearly met it, given that it appears on an original album, three live albums (one as the set opener), and has been covered by another band.  In particular, the last point is crucial; I believe that Wikipedia policy has always been that a song that has been covered by multiple artists deserves its own page, since it would be redundant to have a detailed section about this song on multiple artist or album pages. &mdash; Lawrence King ( talk ) 19:21, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - The notability bars are WP:NSONG and/or WP:GNG, which this song does not meet. Yes, other song articles exist. They either meet one (or both) of the guidelines or they should be deleted. Yes, recordings by multiple notable artists secure the assumption of notability. WP:NSONG makes clear: "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article." The article currently has one reliable source, featuring brief coverage of one performance of the song. -  Sum mer PhD  (talk) 01:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  — Frankie (talk) 17:15, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment. I have done some reorganizing of the article and added a few more sources. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 07:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - M90 has added some useful sources. I'm now marginal on it passing/failing GNG or NSONG. Other opinions? - Sum mer PhD  (talk) 22:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.