Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Bair


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Consensus seems to be that material has been found with which the article can be improved. If an article can be improved, it should not be deleted but rather fixed. TravellingCari 01:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Michael Bair

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Non-notable penciller and inker of comics. No awards, so it's hard to see how he would satisfy WP:BIO. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:16, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.   —J Greb (talk) 04:36, 14 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep the article isn't doing him any favours. A quick look around shows he has been working solidly in the industry since the mid-1980s and has a number of high profile books under his belt . It also appears he has been exclusive to DC for a while, which is quite a big deal, and that press release has a senior editor saying he is "one of DC's premiere inkers." Also this from Geoff Johns "Helping Johns rebuild life for the Hawks is the artistic team of Rags Morales and Michael Bair. 'They are the most underrated art team in the business," Johns said. "Their work is majestic, detailed and kinetic.'" (also here). Also Morales on Bair's inking (and if you read on you'll see how it is a true team effort with Bair deciding to go for Hawkman): "when I saw the magic that Michael Bair added to my work, I knew I had to stick with this dude" Also his earlier pencil work was well received working on Hellstrom, Vampirella (with Grant Morrison) and  Daredevil, Gregory White on his Daredevil work "I don't think that story could have worked at all if it weren't for the terrific artwork of Michael Bair." Granted it can be difficult for pencilers turned inkers to make a big splash but Bair is one of the leading inkers in the business and has worked on a lot of the big name titles - see for example this article on his Identity Crisis work. I could go on but I think there is potential to improve the article and demonstrate the importance of his work. (Emperor (talk) 14:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC))
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, BJ Talk 23:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —  Xy7   (talk)  00:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per Emperor. An artist need not be award-winning to be notable, and the sources found demonstrate that he is a significant figure in his field. --erachima talk 09:48, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Notable enough for me. Long career, big company (DC), important field, above average resumé. --Quartermaster (talk) 16:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Weak Delete I can see how the subject meets notability, but there's just no worthwhile content in this article. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment once the AfD is done I will be expanding it and adding in things I found while looking around - I just didn't want to put a lot of time into something that could disappear the next day (I don't have enough free time and plenty of other things to be doing). (Emperor (talk) 17:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC))
 * That works for me. Good luck with its survival and your expansion of it. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete: First, there is no content here at all.  It is two sentences, which say, without evidence at all, that he's important and that he worked on this.  Well, that's nice, but it can't be called a biography.  Working on something is not sufficient.  The guy who sweeps up the studio can't say that he "worked on 'Gone With the Wind'," can he, and get an article?  Utgard Loki (talk) 17:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Did you read any of the references provided above by User:Emperor? --erachima talk 17:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep and improve. This article appears to be salvageable based on the sources provided within this discussion.   coccyx bloccyx  (toccyx)  17:44, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - Sources exist. - Peregrine Fisher (talk) (contribs) 17:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep – Based on creditable – reliable – certifiable – 3rd party sources as shown here . ShoesssS Talk 20:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep per Emperor's nice footwork. Ford MF (talk) 20:50, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.