Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Baron (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Consensus among established editors is clear. There may also be some paperwork incoming, but a relist isn't needed Star   Mississippi  02:00, 13 February 2024 (UTC) ETA: Sockpuppet investigations/Emma knows it well closed indicating all those arguing in favor were socks. However the consensus to delete is sufficient among established editors that a relist isn't needed. Star  Mississippi  15:13, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Michael Baron
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Does not meet WP:GNG, all available coverage is work written by Baron or interviews of Baron, not independent coverage about Baron. The initial editor has disavowed a conflict of interest on their talk page but has not addressed the fact that they uploaded a close-range photograph of the subject to Commons in 2021. N.b., this subject appears entirely unrelated to prior articles created at the title Michael Baron. signed,Rosguill talk 19:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors, Russia,  and Australia. signed,Rosguill talk 19:00, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for highlighting the photo issue. I was translating the profile from Vietnamese + adding more recent info i could find and when googling for suitable photos (I later added the photo for the vietnamese wiki profile as well) I did not pay attention whether it was close-ranged or not just made sure it was for the right person. I will try to find a better photo as well as check for more coverage of Baron's work available in English Emma knows it well (talk) 22:46, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Maybe unreleated to the AfD in question, but if you claim you were "googling for suitable photos", how come you uploaded it as "own work"? This constitute a likely violation of copyright. --Broc (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * I've added link to his ORCID profile that includes over 200 research/academic works Emma knows it well (talk) 01:02, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
 * https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/probability-and-statistics/9781439875919/
 * This is a Michael Baron book with another one being less Data Science Focused (using more ancient analytics techniques I believe :):
 * https://www.amazon.com.au/Integration-Marketing-Communications-Historical-Development/dp/383832272X
 * He was also representing Australia in The Data Science Foundation at some point apparently. DataScientist1986 (talk) 14:45, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you DS,
 * I've googled DS Foundation and Found it. I will add to his profile tomorrow. Emma knows it well (talk) 15:31, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Done! Emma knows it well (talk) 14:24, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:08, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Just publishing stuff counts for nothing. For notability the stuff has to be cited by others, which is not the case here. The ORCID profile just contains vapid puffery. Xxanthippe (talk) 01:44, 30 January 2024 (UTC).
 * I believe I've seen artcile or presentation referring to him as the creator or one of the creators of the Square Zero predictive analytics Model - It has been a while though since I looked into Predictive Analytics so I will probably need to google it up again. But his name is definitely familiar to some of those who are engaged in Data Analytics. DataScientist1986 (talk) 04:09, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
 * Fine, just produce some RS. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:44, 31 January 2024 (UTC).


 * Delete. Inadequate RS as yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 21:38, 29 January 2024 (UTC).


 * Keep !, His contribution in Data Science is quite significant and I had a look at his involvement as referencing his profile in the COVID investigations in Australia as well as his articles, he is definitely a significant scholar ! Rapanomics (talk) 03:46, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
 * You need to produce a better source than your unsupported opinion. Xxanthippe (talk) 04:06, 4 February 2024 (UTC).

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  23:31, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete lacks notability and no reliable sources have been produced so far. --Broc (talk) 13:33, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * So my initial profile creation was translation of his profile from Vietnamese Wiki so I tried to simply translate content that was there at the time without adding anything (as suggested for wiki page translation) now on the basis of the feedback recieved I've tried to a) remove some references to his writings and interviews (I thought that being published/interviewed by well-known media outlets is significant) Now the English version looks different from the Vietnamese one. Also, the Vietnamese profile was created many years ago so, I've been able to locate (thank you DataScientist1986 for the lead) his activities as part of the Data Science Foundation leadership & new COVID-related work Emma knows it well (talk) 14:33, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * As far as I am concerned, Baron is notable enough to keep the profile in Wiki not only becase his textbooks are prescribed texts in colleges and he is being interviewed by some people to give his opinion but also because he has been invited to Parliament as a subject matter expert. I think this quite significant. DataScientist1986 (talk) 22:41, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
 * He seems to be quite significant as googling him does show some media coverage. BulgarianCat (talk) 10:14, 12 February 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.