Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Biggs (singer)


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The result was no consensus‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. As this is due primarily to lack of participation, there is no prejudice against speedy renomination. Seraphimblade Talk to me 03:28, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Michael Biggs (singer)

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The fabulously named Michael Fernand Nascimento de Castro Biggs is Ronnie Biggs' son (remember folks, notability is not inherited) but his notability is presented in this article as a singer. There is no evidence that the subject is or was notable as a singer. The article does contain the compelling line, "Since March 2021, Biggs has being a television presenter for a Music show called Papo Musical, which is about music." but the coverage presented here relies on Michael's relationship with his father, and with his membership of a children's group, The Magic Balloon Gang (a possible redirect target). Michael himself fails WP:GNG. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Bands and musicians, Music, Television, United Kingdom,  and Brazil. Alexandermcnabb (talk) 14:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep or redirect to Turma do Balão Mágico. Michael Biggs was a child actor on the popular television show Balão Mágico and singer on popular band. Dwanyewest (talk) 14:57, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I looked into the sources and added some new ones (I speak Brazilian Portuguese); the source about Papo Musical doesn't rely on his relationship with his father (he isn't well known in Brazil, unlike his son), but it does primarily associate him with his former band.


 * However, my reading of WP:BIO is that this doesn't preclude him from being considered notable -- Several news articles from reputable sources have been written concerning him specifically, even if he's introduced as a former member of the band. I think there's enough information and sources about him to warrant a separate article, and so I disagree that the article should be merged.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 16:54, 30 September 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I did some copy-editing to improve the quality of the article, and I think it's significantly better now (please give me some feedback). CVDX (talk) 18:41, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.