Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Brea


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. While on strict count of heads this is a borderline consensus at best, Wikipedia has an absolute requirement in sensitive cases such as this to err on the side of WP:BLP conservatism — which means that given (a) he had one single, barely credited bit part in one TV show and thus doesn't even meet WP:NACTOR to start with, (b) he's been accused, but not yet convicted, of a crime and thus doesn't meet WP:PERP, and (c) one of the keep votes is the article's creator and the other one just asserts that notability is met without actually explaining how or why, as currently constituted there's simply no question that WP:BLP trumps any remaining doubts. Bearcat (talk) 05:52, 11 January 2012 (UTC)

Michael Brea

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Subject meets no guidelines for notability, and it isn't even a BLP1E. The CSD last month was contested because "he appeared in a notable TV show", but he does not meet WP:NACTOR to verify that. The news sources reporting the murder said the subject was a "bit-part actor" in 'Ugly Betty", but he has no IMDB page, and no credits for "Ugly Betty" or any other acting roles on IMDB. He also does not qualify under WP:PERP where it clearly states, "Editors must give serious consideration to not creating an article on an alleged perpetrator when no conviction is yet secured."'  Given the first edit, this is exactly the type of article to which the policy applies, and at the present time, there has been no trial, and likely will not be, as the otherwise-nn EVENT was over a year old when it was turned into a BIO article. MSJapan (talk) 19:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:05, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 23:06, 2 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. He doesn't make it on his acting ("Onetime Ugly Betty bit-part actor") leaving only the murder, which falls afoul of WP:BLP1E. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:20, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep He attracted a large amount of press coverage which goes beyond the WP:BLP1E criteria.  Also was an actor in mainstream films. JASpencer (talk) 19:52, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:BLP1E and WP:NOT. The only coverage found on this felow is in relationship to the beheading of his mother... a heinous act certainly... but just one event. In looking for his being an "actor in mainstream films", IMDB does not list this actor at all.. and the only sources that speak toward his acting all refer to Ugly Betty within their reports of his crime.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 23:08, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete Seems otherwise non-notable, and would be reduction in citogenesis. AndroidCat (talk) 14:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Press coverage beyond WP:BLP1E has been achieved. Its a keeper.--BabbaQ (talk) 15:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment - It's always helpful to back up an AFD statement with proof. What's yours? MSJapan (talk) 20:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.