Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Brown (footballer, born 1984)


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The result was delete. Whether or not the player meets nfooty is ultimately not relevant. Nfooty is a presumption of GNG. This has been challenged and no sources have been presented that come close to satisfying GNG. Fenix down (talk) 07:00, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Michael Brown (footballer, born 1984)

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Article fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. The Scottish 2nd tier did not become fully professional until 2013 when the Scottish Football League and Scottish Premier League merged to form the Scottish Professional Football League (SPFL). Simione001 (talk) 22:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)


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 * Keep - the Scottish second tier has always historically been considered fully-pro, meaning this player meets WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 08:30, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Says who? It is not listed - WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues. Michael Brown played in the Irn-Bru Scottish Football League which consisted of a mixture of both professional and semi-professional clubs meaning the league is not fully professional. This is backed up by the first line of the Scottish Football League page article. Simione001 (talk) 09:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment It's worth noting that the "Scottish Division One" was replaced by the Scottish Championship, which is on FPL. Division One was actually listed at FPL pre-Championship, as seen here. R96Skinner (talk) 10:11, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Michael Brown played in the Irn-Bru Scottish Football League which consisted of a mixture of both professional and semi-professional clubs meaning the league is not fully professional - the league as a whole had semi-pro and pro teams, but that does not mean that this applies to every division within it. FPL considers individual divisions in isolation (eg for Cyprus only Division One is considered fully pro, not Divisions Two and Three).  If EFL League Two had semi-pro teams in it, we'd still consider the EFL Championship to be fully pro, even though they are both part of the EFL..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:35, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unless someone can produce significant coverage in reliable sources, the discussion about whether and when Airdrie United was in a fully professional league is academic and irrelevant. All I see is routine transfer coverage and the like, which is insufficient sourcing upon which to build a biography of any kind. The article under discussion is 8 years out of date. Despite the opening (and, farcially, only) paragraph of the article, Michael Brown does not play for the Bonnyrigg White Eagles. That's the atrophy that you get when you ignore the general notability guideline: a sea of flotsam and jetsam of out-of-date biographies that no-one cares about, except of course for the poor subjects about whom the biographies are written. It is irresponsible to argue that biographies like this should be kept without giving a moment's consideration to that institutional failure. --Mkativerata (talk) 11:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete – even if he meets NFOOTY, there is no indication the article subject meets GNG. – Levivich 22:32, 29 July 2019 (UTC)


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