Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Buckwald (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to Leap Motion. Debate about switching the redirect target to Torch (company) can continue on the target's Talk page. Owen&times; &#9742;  13:28, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

Michael Buckwald
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Eight months since the last AFD, and he's still a non-notable CEO of a notable company. Article is nearly identical to the previous version, apart from the 2013 Time magazine interview. The rest is still just coverage of him in the context of his company, passing mentions, and interviews. G4 contested by SPA anon editor, likely the logged-out article creator. Strong aroma of UPE. Wikishovel (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Businesspeople, Technology, California, Florida,  and Washington, D.C.. Wikishovel (talk) 15:11, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete fairly obvious WP:REFBOMB with largely worthless non-WP:GNG compliant sources like and . Looking at the new sources since the last AFD not addressed by the nom  there is no WP:SIGCOV of the subject. I suppose every so often the UPEs will try again when they have new paid placements or references with passing mentions that can be added to game G4 but it is what it is. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:44A3:EFF3:245F:594D (talk) 17:51, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment Leap Motion (the company he was formerly CEO of) does have an article; his current company (Torch Sensors) does as well (much more dubiously) . There is a non-trivial amount of coverage from c.2013.  The article needs cleanup, but I am undecided between keep, redirect, and delete.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Walsh90210 (talk • contribs) 00:24, 22 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Delete Checked all of the refs here (very bombed) and only one has more than a mention of him and that is an interview. Everything else name-checks him in an article about a product. Many of the refs that I checked do not verify the statements in the article. Lamona (talk) 04:55, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I should add that I did the usual G-search and found no significant independent sources. Lamona (talk) 05:00, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Star   Mississippi  13:56, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Torch (company) where he is mentioned. Or his earlier company, Leap Motion. Liz Read! Talk! 01:14, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I thought about that, but since his name appears at both we have a classic WP:XY and I would rather not kick this one to RFD. 2601:5CC:8300:A7F0:780A:A70F:B434:93EA (talk) 21:31, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, CycloneYoris talk! 07:33, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Leap Motion: The sourcing presently in the article is all about Leap Motion, I'd redirect there. The Time magazine interview doesn't help notability, but does talk about Leap. Oaktree b (talk) 15:59, 28 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Weak keep I lean towards trimming the page and leaving the basic information. Redirecting to another page is not optimal either. The person has a basic level of notable media coverage and is generally notable. --RodrigoIPacce (talk) 17:55, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Given that we have both Torch (company) and Leap Motion, I think there's a reasonable argument to keep this for the same kinds of reasons we keep authors of multiple notable books, painters of multiple notable paintings, etc. But I don't like it. -- asilvering (talk) 02:54, 12 July 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.