Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Burghardt


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The result was   delete. KTC (talk) 20:18, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Michael Burghardt

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A Marine who fails WP:SOLDIER. One bit of media coverage for an incident, but that was not lasting. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
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 * Delete. Seems like a WP:BLP1E situation to me.  Maybe there's a list he could be merged to?  If someone suggests one, I would support that. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 14:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. No particular notability. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:59, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GNG. The photograph and IED incident was September 2005. Snopes called it an "iconic photo of the war". Snopes is not reliable(?) but it's evidence we may be dealing with more lasting impact and to look more closely. The incident has been discussed in two books already (a chapter in one), plus later news stories. However not all of the sources are in relation to the photograph and IED event, most are, but Burghardt has other unrelated coverage so BLP1E doesn't apply since he is not a low profile individual. Sources by date:
 * Robert A. Simonsen. "Chapter 43: USMC Gunnery Sergeant Michael Burghardt", Marines Dodging Death: Sixty-two Accounts of Close Calls in World War II, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Iraq, and Afghanistan, McFarland, Jan 1, 2009
 * Brad Steiger. Real Miracles, Divine Intervention, and Feats of Incredible Survival, Visible Ink Press, Jan 1, 2009. Pg. 75-77
 * Jennifer H. Svan. "Notorious photo dogs Marine who was wounded in Iraq", Stars and Stripes, June 01, 2008
 * Blake Morrison. "Is the military blowing up key evidence?". USA Today, November 7, 2007
 * Bryan A. Peterson. "Marine Teaches Japanese Soldiers about IEDs", The Face of Defense (US Department of Defense), Sept. 4, 2007
 * Nick Schinker. "Shot of a Lifetime", University of Nebraska, Omaha, March 2006
 * Lowell Ponte. "The Hand of a Hero", FrontPage Magazine, April 27, 2006
 * Toby Harnden. "'They blew me up. But I flipped them one to say: OK, I lost this round but I'll be back'", The Daily Telegraph, 27 November 2005
 * Monte Morin. "Marine bomb expert shaken but not deterred by IED", Stars and Stripes, January 15, 2006
 * C. David Kotok. "Injured Marine defies attackers". Omaha World-Herald. p. A1. September 24, 2005
 * --Green Cardamom (talk) 02:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 18:43, 14 November 2013 (UTC)




 * Delete - The test for "one event" is simple; imagine if the event ever happened, would this person still be covered by reliable sources. It is clear here that if the photo opportunity never happened, Mr. Burghardt would be just like thousands of other American soldiers. Tarc (talk) 20:27, 14 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Green Cardamom's sources are nice but they don't change the fact that this is in fact WP:BLP1E. If the photo is that iconic an article about the photo might be appropriate though. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
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