Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Cammarata (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. The consensus of policy-based discussion was that the subject fails notability guidelines. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  14:55, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Michael Cammarata
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Removed PROD per WP:PROD (previous AFD exists). Reason given in PROD was: Non-notable individual lacking GHits and GNEWs of substance. Appears to fail WP:BIO. Illia Connell (talk) 22:02, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment Note that the correct previous AFD is Articles for deletion/Michael T Cammarata. The first AFD referenced above is a different person. § FreeRangeFrog croak 22:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually the previous AfD is still the same person per here that AfD must of been the same person too just in a different name.  Jay Jay Talk to me 01:14, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No, if you look at the AFD discussion they're talking about a firefighter that died during the Sept 11 attacks. The creator of this person's bio first used "Michael T Cammarata", and then this time around just reused the title without the middle initial since it was available. § FreeRangeFrog croak 04:36, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahh whatever, Delete anyways fails WP:BIO  Jay Jay Talk to me 20:47, 27 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - Fails WP:BIO. red dog six  (talk) 22:41, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete I was unable to successfully source this. Amazing claims of having invented internet marketing (or whatever) on the article, the bit about producing the movie with those kids is correct, however I don't feel that is enough to establish notability, so he fails WP:GNG and WP:CREATIVE. If he continues his production career then maybe this is just a case of WP:TOOSOON. § FreeRangeFrog croak 20:25, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete no reliable sources found.  GregJackP   Boomer!   22:26, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 18:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 18:24, 28 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep on Hollywood Reporter - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/vanessa-hudgens-ashley-tisdale-animated-movie-371542 - Confirms the movie release date, cast and that Mr. Cammarata is producing it. Hollywood Reporter - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/risky-business/big-time-rush-kendall-schmidt-logan-henderson-370437 - confirms MR. Cammarata manages Big Time Rush Kendall Schmidt and Logan Henderson IMDB http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm3148735/clients_rank - confirms Mr. Cammarata manages Ray J, Kendall Schmidt, Logan Henderson, Kevin Schmidt, Kenneth Schmidt and more. Also includes he is part of Cammarata Management and The Beddingfield company which also manages josh hutcherson  PollStarPro http://www.pollstarpro.com/search.aspx?ArticleID=53&id=research&ArtistID=243157&ScienceArtistID=184845 - confirms Mr. Cammarata manages the group Big Time Rush, Ray J, Kendall Schmidt, Logan Henderson, Kevin Schmidt, Kenneth Schmidt complete list http://www.pollstarpro.com/search.aspx?ArticleID=29&id=research&CompFunctionID=&ScienceCompFunctionID=122346,  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.14.89.30 (talk • contribs)  — 173.14.89.30 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Delete - Seems non-notable. Greengreengreen  red  07:19, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: If anyone was wondering, all four of the "Keep" votes above my "Delete" vote were posted by the same user (173.14.89.30). Greengreengreen  red  07:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep he manages one of the biggest music groups in the world — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.147.123.32 (talk) 08:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)  — 166.147.123.32 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - Please demonstrate how this meets Wikipedia criteria for inclusion. red dog six  (talk) 18:17, 4 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment Big Time Rush is currently 2nd biggest boy band in the world. They landed the over Parade Magazine
 * Comment used archive.org to link him to being the founder of Ultraboard known as UB and UB2K one of the first Message_boards
 * Comment used archive.org to find background Message boards major release was designed under ultrascripts brand 1999 and latest name change from Ultraboard being cgi based to php based was in 2000 see  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Internetfreedom (talk • contribs) 08:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment I compared Ultraboard to VBulletin, Phpbb, and other internet forum software found at http://cgi.resourceindex.com/Programs_and_Scripts/ and http://php.resourceindex.com/Programs_and_Scripts/ also using web.archive.org to confirm Ultraboard was the first to use php and was the first listing 1996
 * Comment using archive, I have also linked and found that Michael Cammarata released the first video game music video which was one of the most downloaded files from gamespy/fileplanet at is time, Diablo II/Gangsters Paradise Music Video, and Starcraft/Limp Bizkit Music Video  by GamingMV  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Internetfreedom (talk • contribs) 09:21, 29 December 2012 (UTC)  — Internetfreedom (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep thats a big project. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.226.104 (talk) 01:58, 4 January 2013 (UTC) — 76.173.226.104 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - Please demonstrate how this meets Wikipedia criteria for inclusion. red dog six  (talk)


 * Keep — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.115.76 (talk) 08:49, 4 January 2013 (UTC) — 76.167.115.76 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Comment - Why? Please demonstrate how this meets Wikipedia criteria for inclusion.  red dog six  (talk)
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