Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Cheng (entrepreneur)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep/Withdrawn. Creator made sufficient efforts to clean up and improve notability and formatting. Minor article so not much weigh-in on discussion, but not worth keeping discussion open any further. Crocodilesareforwimps 10:26, 4 April 2013‎

Michael Cheng (entrepreneur)

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Page contains a list of awards won by subject, but very little content that demonstrates notability on a wide scale. Edit history leads to suspicion that article was created and maintained by the subject or someone close to him. If so, issues with bias implied. Talk page for Vancitystars (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vancitystars) shows that article was rejected numerous times before it was created. Many news articles cited, but there is an unnecessarily high level of detail listing awards that do not actually imply notability.CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 07:45, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your feedback. I am the author of this article, but am in no way connected to the subject. In response to your feedback, I have removed the details of the awards to ensure that the article presents itself as a neutral source of information on the subject. The article was rejected numerous time before it was created due to the lack of news sources during the early stages of establishing this article. In response to your feedback, I have found 6 additional reliable and published sources on the subject. These articles are from Ottawa Citizen, Edmonton Journal, The Star Phoenix, The Windsor Star, and The Gazette (Montreal), in addition to the existing citations from Metro International, The Province, and The Vancouver Sun. Any additional feedback on methods to improve this article is much appreciated. Vancitystars (talk) 02:36, 28 March 2013 (PST)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of British Columbia-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 14:42, 28 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Despite the listed sources, the article does not appear to be notable to a general audience. Lots of people have started companies and won awards, but that does not automatically warrant an entry in Wikipedia. Perhaps you should consider how this person has affected others, such as the significance of the ventures to the public, some discussion of what they did, something like that. Right now it's just a poorly-sourced (possibly primary-research based) list of obscure companies and then a series of repetitive news articles without substantial content.CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 00:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you again for your continuous feedback and support to help improve this article. In response to your recent feedback, I have considered how the subject has affected others, and have done extensive research on the significance of the ventures to the public. After identifying a number of reliable sources supporting the notability of the subject, I have added two additional sections focusing on the subject's social impact as well as numerous public recognition of such impact through notable awards. Also in response to your feedback, I have removed sections containing primary research materials. There are a number of reliable, published sources suggesting the notability of the subject from many of Canada's largest and most trusted publications. Please feel free to provide me with feedback on the revisions so that I may continue to improve the article. Vancitystars (talk) 00:22, 29 March 2013 (PST)


 * That's already much better, but consider structuring the article according to other bibliographical articles, i.e. instead of having very specific sections, consider more general headers with subsections.CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 03:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I followed your suggestion and did a lot of research on a number of bibliographical articles, such as that of Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, and Richard Branson. As such, I have structured the article using more general headers with subsections as opposed to the previous revisions with specific sections. Thank you again for your continuous support in helping improve this article, your efforts are much appreciated. Vancitystars (talk) 00:41, 31 March 2013 (PST)


 * Much better.CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 00:02, 4 April 2013 (UTC)


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