Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Costello (fashion designer)


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 14:45, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Michael Costello (fashion designer)

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Article was proposed for speedy delete (Category A7 - Non notable subject) and was speedy deleted. The article has been subsequently recreated but the subject is no more notable now than on the 18th April 2015. I B Wright (talk) 13:56, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak keep This may be WP:TOOSOON, but the write-up in the LA Times qualifies as a RS. InStyle magazine is also a RS for fashion, but that is an interview with a short introduction. Admittedly, in-depth articles about fashion designers are rare, so I'm going on the kind of attention he has gotten in known sources. LaMona (talk) 18:01, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep This is a well-known fashion designer who was on Project Runway and designed many clothes by numerous celebrities. He has a big following on Instagram and his clothes were presented at Mercedes-Benz Fashion Week. Beyonce wore one of his dresses: http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/27/news/la-ar-grammys-2014-beyonce-designer-michael-costello-on-that-dress-20140127 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:50CC:8F00:ADD7:FF99:2674:40D7 (talk) 23:19, 30 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete. Keep  I agree with  that this looks like a case of WP:TOOSOON but disagree on what should be done about it.  Right now, I see one good source that counts toward notabilty, the LA Times article by Tschorn.  None of the rest count toward notability for various reasons, most of them either because they're primary sources (including the interviews) or because they're not reliable sources.  But WP:GNG requires multiple sources, meaning at least two.  One is not enough.  Without multiple sources, I have to !vote delete but suggest the article be WP:USERFIED while the search for sources continues.   Msnicki (talk) 23:51, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Changing to keep based on the Desert Sun source. Msnicki (talk) 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Weak keep. I was the editor who originally nominated the speedy deletion, and I am beginning to think I may have been a bit hasty in pulling the trigger then. A search of Google News shows that this guy seems to be an actual big deal within the fashion world, at least for now (it is notoriously fickle).  However, most of the articles are along the lines of "celebrity X wore a gown by Michael Costello at Event X" and the bulk of the article is about the celebrity and/or the event, rather than being about the guy who made the dress.  So the articles mostly support the claims of celebrities wearing his outfits, rather than being about him explicitly.  I agree that if the article is deleted, it would be best to userify it so it can be cleaned up and references found. --Gronk Oz (talk) 03:52, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep This year this fashion designer appeared on the cover of NY Times, it qualifies as a RS. The article is not complexity, really.
 * Shad Innet (talk) 08:37, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Do you have a link you can share? This source is not cited in the article and I would like to see it.  Msnicki (talk) 14:19, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep I created this article because Michael Costello is a well-known fashion designer who designed clothes for numerous celebrities. His clothes were featured at famous runway shows. He was on the newspaper The Desert Sun. http://www.desertsun.com/story/life/style/2015/01/14/michael-costello-mercedes-benz-fashion-week-new-york-el-paseo-fashion-week/21780771/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by HipHopVisionary (talk • contribs) 23:29, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Okay, I will accept this as a second good source. Msnicki (talk) 23:34, 4 June 2015 (UTC)


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