Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Felgate (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Without evidence that the Cypriot league is professional, simply doesn't pass WP:ATHLETE (or WP:N for that matter in this case). It will be noted that all the other players on his team's squad pass that bar by having played professionally elsewhere. Black Kite 12:11, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Michael Felgate
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This page was deleted before. It has been brought back but there is still no assertion of notability Spiderone (talk) 12:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Spiderone (talk) 12:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note - the previous AfD was for a different person by the same name. GiantSnowman 12:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh right sorry Spiderone (talk) 16:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom; non-notable footballer who fails WP:ATHLETE. GiantSnowman 12:57, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:05, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 12:05, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - the Cypriot league is a notable professional, top-level European League Eldumpo (talk) 20:32, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete playing in a top-level European league doesn't make a player notable, otherwise players who've played in the Faroe Islands and Liechtenstein etc. Cypriot league is not fully-professional and thus he does not satisfy the criteria for sportspeople at WP:ATHLETE. Lack of verifiable references also fail WP:V and WP:N. --Jimbo[online] 20:40, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep Plays for Enosis Neon Paralimni FC in the Cypriot First Division, the top tier football league competition in Cyprus. When the league is notable and the clubs are notable, the players are notable too. --Ilion2 (talk) 14:10, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment That isn't true. For example Sutton United is a notable club but none of its players are notable. Spiderone (talk) 17:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Sounds like : Yes, the film is notable but all the actors are not notable. Sounds silly to me. The mission is to create an encyclopedia, not to delete me. I wonder why some people who claims to be members of WikiProject Football does not proof notability and expands the articles as necessary, instead they try to delete dozens of articles like this. This league if professional according to fr:Championnat de Chypre de football. --Ilion2 (talk) 06:28, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Even the Cypriot Second Division claims to be professional. --Ilion2 (talk) 06:41, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment The French Wikipedia is not a reliable source under any circumstances Spiderone (talk) 08:18, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Yes, we all should know this. Your source that this league is not professional is what? --Ilion2 (talk) 08:34, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I haven't got a source to say it isn't professional but usually leagues don't advertise being semi-pro or amateur. Spiderone (talk) 08:42, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Cypriot league is not fully professional and he has no other evidence of reaching wp:NPorturology (talk) 23:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment What is the source for your statement that the Cypriot league is not fully professional? --Ilion2 (talk) 08:36, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment All leagues are assumed not to be professional until someone proves they're professional Spiderone (talk) 08:39, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence Cypriot league is fully professional. The fact it is the top league in the country of Cyprus is irrelevant, even San Marino has its own top division... --Angelo (talk) 12:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.