Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Greenberg (soccer)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. KTC (talk) 00:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Michael Greenberg (soccer)

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PROD contested due to "multiple sources" but we have one journalist in Israel apparently covering amateur "soccer" and one in the USA doing the same. No indication this individual meets WP:NFOOTBALL due to him not playing in a fully professional league. Large number of ghits due to other individuals with the same name does not mean he meets the general notability guideline either. Cloudz 679 21:34, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Cloudz 679 21:36, 22 December 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - the sources listed are routine sports journalism, meaning they are insufficient to meet WP:GNG, and as pointed out in the nomination, Mr. Greenberg has not played in a fully pro league, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT as well. Sir Sputnik (talk) 21:48, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. The sources in footnotes 1 & 2 do not look like "routine sports journalism" to me; they're much more about Greenberg's unusual background.  In my view, he passes WP:GNG, barely. --Arxiloxos (talk) 22:32, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Passes notability as Liga Leumit is a professional league. The two editors above calling for a deletion are also removing this citation in the WP:Football list of professional leagues. -NYC2TLV (talk) 03:13, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete (for now) - fails WP:GNG and doesn't (per current WP:FPL) meet WP:NFOOTBALL, however there is a discussion at WT:FPL about this league's professionalism. GiantSnowman 09:38, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:12, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Comment - I agree with Arxiloxos on this one, it looks like he barely passes WP:GNG, but I don't read Hebrew, so I don't know about the second one. But I don't think his four appearances should be given much weight regardlesss or whether Liga Leumit is a fully pro league or not, and we should discuss if he passes WP:GNG or not. Mentoz86 (talk) 21:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 03:26, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Israel-related deletion discussions. Mentoz86 (talk) 20:09, 5 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sue Rangell ✍ ✉ 05:42, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Delete As far as I can see he played in the second level of Israeli football and I am not sure if tier league is fully pro anyway. The link which -NYC2TLV provided, I read the Israeli and it only tells us the breakdown of the new league setup. As far as I saw it said nothing about the second tier being fully-pro and now he is playing for a club in the third tier! If he gets promoted to the prem and plays some ye, have an article, but at the moment, I don't even see enough citation to pass WP:GNG. He is currently a long way away from even passing WP:NFOOTBALL. Govvy (talk) 12:20, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  ·Add§hore·  T alk T o M e ! 17:55, 19 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment - Somebody needs to make a call, this is the fourth relisting. Three should be an exceptional situation, more than that just shouldn't be happening... See RELIST. Carrite (talk) 23:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment Those claiming he barely passes GNG, that's your prerogative, but I feel if the article's only reason for being is "for meeting GNG", then this should be absolutely clear in its interpretation. It would seem, due to this debate not having already been settled, that there is not a clear case for meeting the GNG and I would therefore have to conclude that deleting the article is the only suitable course of action. C 679 13:18, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NFOOTY, and borderline GNG case. I do not believe Liga Leumit is fully professional. Number   5  7  10:00, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
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