Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Greenberg (soccer) (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 11:18, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Michael Greenberg (soccer)
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The last afd failed to reach consensus largely due to a lack of participation considering how long it was open. The underlying notability issues remain. He has not played in a fully pro league or received significant coverage, meaning the article fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Sir Sputnik (talk) 18:18, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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 * Liga Leumit, in which he has played 4 games, is listed at WikiProject Football/Fully professional leagues as a fully professional league. As long as it is, shouldn't this be a speedy keep?  Even if it isn't, Greenberg has an unusual background and has received substantial coverage in the U.S. and Israel that (barely) passes GNG, as outlined in the first AfD.  For what it's worth, here is a recent interview with him on Israel Sports Radio on Tel Aviv's TLV1.--Arxiloxos (talk) 18:55, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The Liga Leumit entry at FPL specifically says that the league was only fully pro prior to the 2008/09 season. All of Mr. Greenbergs appearances in that league were after that, so they do not qualify under WP:NSPORT. Sir Sputnik (talk) 19:15, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * As written, that date limitation appears to be applicable only to Liga Artzit. Can you point to a discussion or source that applies it to Liga Leumit? The cited sources both seem to refer to Liga Leumit as a professional league.--Arxiloxos (talk) 20:05, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
 * The time restrictions were misplaced as the result of a poorly formatted edit which I have since undone. I'm having some trouble finding the original discussion, since it dates back about three and half years (diff). I will of course post it here, if and when I find it. Sir Sputnik (talk) 20:30, 15 November 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. GiantSnowman 08:45, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - He hasn't played in a Fully professional league and he doesn't have any senior international caps either therefore he fails WP:NFOOTBALL. IJA (talk) 11:27, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment - I'm willing to reconsider because he may pass WP:GNG, there may be significant coverage of him in Hebrew language media as well as the coverage of him in English language media but I can't tell at the moment and I'm not sure if it is simply routine. IJA (talk) 11:27, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. – Michael (talk) 06:46, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete - Fails WP:NFOOTY as has not played senior international football nor played in a fully professional league. No indication that subject has garnered significant reliable coverage for any other achievements to satisfy GNG. Fenix down (talk) 15:06, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:NFOOTBALL failure. Number   5  7  15:51, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
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