Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael J. Padilla


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The result was   Nomination withdrawn see Eco's comment below. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 03:56, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Michael J. Padilla

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No evidence of notability is presented Withdrawing nomination In view of changes to the article (and I even pitched in a couple of edits), the notability is now confirmed and this nomination can be withdrawn. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Comment I appreciate and respect your defense of the article, but I should point out that the statement that Mr. Padilla "is the leader in middle school science education in the U.S." is not currently backed by any source. Can you please verify who said that? Many thanks! Ecoleetage (talk) 02:57, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The article does assert notability ("the leader in middle school science education in the U.S."), but nom is correct that references to back up such a claim are lacking. However, from what I can just find via google, he seems notable — a reasonable number of hits in google scholar; author of at least 25 books available from Amazon.com; 11,000 ghits. To me, it looks like a case of needing to get good references as opposed to a good candidate for deletion. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment/response. I wasn't vouching for the statement. I was simply pointing out that the article does assert notability through it; whether or not it is referenced is a separate issue which I've commented on above. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:12, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete at present. If he is truly a professor of science, there should be a discussion or reference to his books (as the article states) to establish notability in his field of study. But, there is none. So, there is no verifiable sources on him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Artene50 (talk • contribs) 09:49, 4 June 2008
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions.   —David Eppstein (talk) 18:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Well, he was president of the National Science Teachers Association in 2005-06 and is currently chairman of their International Advisory Board .  The current pres has a decent size bio; with the wayback machine, if nothing else, we should be able to get a good one for him there.John Z (talk) 19:08, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep a search before nominating would have cleared up most doubts about notability. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 19:17, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. See Amazon for his books. --Eastmain (talk) 20:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep President of Science Teachers Association is quite sufficient, as the national organization in his profession, thus showing recognition by peers. DGG (talk) 01:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)


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