Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael J. Pagan


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The result was no consensus. Daniel (talk) 02:43, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Michael J. Pagan

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Non-notable actor; could not find any WP:SIGCOV about him. Natg 19 (talk) 17:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
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 * Delete. I didn't found sufficient coverage that makes him a notable actor Rondolinda (talk) 19:33, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. On the contrary, has multiple significant works: played Anjela Bassett's son in How Stella Got Her Groove Back. THR writes:"Pagan is winning as Stella’s protective young son", there are mentions in other reviews - and he was nominated for Image Awards (NAACP) for this role. Played one of leads in See No Evil (2006 film), and then played in Forever Strong and Grindiron Gang.. Maybe it is even Speedy Keep. Кирилл С1 (talk) 20:53, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete i have got only one article from Hollywood Reporter. But there is no in-depth news about him so as per norm delete. Trakinwiki (talk) 15:59, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
 * High profile site writes about his acting in the film. Does a NAACP, as well as multiple significant roles in high-grossing films not count? The actor had a starring role in a Disney film:,.Кирилл С1 (talk) 11:33, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Per what norm? Кирилл С1 (talk) 15:25, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete Not as per the norm, lacks notability.Aloolkaparatha (talk) 03:24, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Why does he lack notability? He has multiple significant roles: a starring in Up, Up, and Away, a Disney film., , his role in How Stella Got Her Groove Back was reviewed multiple times . The film he co-wrote, co-starred in and produced received reviews in highly reliable newspapers, (3 in WP:Filmmaker). Кирилл С1 (talk) 17:16, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. Meets criteria 1 of WP:ANYBIO as he was nominated for an NAACP Image Award which is widely covered in American press. Further, it’s pretty clear he meets criteria 1 of WP:NACTOR as well based on the evidence presented above and the sources in the article. This was a poorly thought through nomination.4meter4 (talk) 05:10, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per and . His nomination garnered enough coverage to satisfy the relevant standards. Bearian (talk) 17:44, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. Insufficient coverage.Pipsally (talk) 14:16, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 13:07, 27 June 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Discussion of the particular references available, and whether they do or do not meet the requirements of notability, would be helpful in determining consensus.
 * Weak keep per . I do not find the source coverage especially convincing, but the NAACP nomination is a valid point. I feel like this is a perfect edge case, and I am leaning in favour of the article here. --LordPeterII (talk) 10:26, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets WP:ANYBIO. Slovenichibo (talk) 05:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 02:24, 8 July 2021 (UTC)


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