Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Majalahti


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. SPA disregarded.  Sandstein  21:11, 30 January 2020 (UTC)

Michael Majalahti

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An IP user, 82.198.149.227, attempted to nominate this page for deletion on the following grounds: "Subject does not meet notability standards. Reads like a promo article." See. I am not taking a position on this nomination; it's a procedural nomination only on my part. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Canada-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:50, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Finland-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:50, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:50, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:51, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 05:52, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep - Notability established through the multiple reliable sources, including Canadian Online Explorer. Concerns about "promotional" phrasing in the article are not a valid reason for AfD. GaryColemanFan (talk) 14:18, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Canadian Online Explorer, nor any of the blogs cited or the many links to the subject's own social media pages, count for notability. It appears that this page was created by the subject. The subject never competed for any relevant promotions. Never was entered in to the PWI Top 500 Wrestlers in the world. Never mentioned by Dave Meltzer in his figure four newsletter. Simply an unknown hack trying to use wikipedia as a launching pad which he should focus his efforts on his website and social media. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.198.149.227 (talk) 23:44, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Canadian Online Explorer definitely demonstrates notability. Your voting rationale appears to demonstrate a vendetta against the article subject. Perhaps you should consider editing other articles instead. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:26, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Canadian Online Explorer (a/k/a canoe.com) was merely the former web presence of a Canadian newspaper chain, which means all of its content was aggregated from that chain's real newspapers. So Canoe is a reliable and notability-assisting source, because it was real newspaper content — it's not necessarily enough all by itself if it's the only reliable source on offer, but it's not nothing. Bearcat (talk) 17:24, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck duplicate !vote above, only one allowed, and the nomination which contains the IP's deletion rationale is considered as their !vote, but feel free to comment all you'd like. See WP:AFDFORMAT for more information. North America1000 05:43, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I have never heard of the guy before receiving spam messages on facebook linking to this bloody page. No vendetta here just facts. He is not notable. Never in WWE. New Japan or other notable organisations. DELETE! DELETE! DELETE! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.198.149.227 (talk) 09:47, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Struck duplicate !vote above, only one allowed, but feel free to comment all you'd like. See WP:AFDFORMAT for more information. North America1000 05:43, 23 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Week keep. I remember him from his time with Smash. He never wrestled in WWE nor NJ, but it doesn't mean he isn't notable. Maybe, the problem is WP:PROMOTIONAL, but it's easy, rewrite the article. He appeared on SLAM Wrestling, CANOE, Eurosport... --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 09:36, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I edited the article. Included a new source and deleted some promotional material. Maybe the problem it's the same, we focus on sourced from USA, but no from Finland. He is in a band, also a movie about him won awards. His wedding was covered in Romania... BTW, I think the article should be renamed StarBuck (wrestler). --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:48, 15 January 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Yunshui 雲 水 11:17, 16 January 2020 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 05:44, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment 82.198.149.227's entire edit history is on the article subject. Coupled with their behavior in this discussion, it's sounding like a case of WP:SPA. sixty nine   • whaddya want? •  06:01, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - Subject does not meet the threshold of notability for musical success, nor for professioanal wrestling. Wrestling as an occasional journeyman wrestler in high school gyms, in non televised matches, are not notable. The article was and remains largely sourced by his own website. The lone source of note is an article and interview with canoe.ca however the quotes and claims made boasting of wide spread success in the interview are not supported elsewhere and appear to be simply part of an "in character" thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wwefanboy68 (talk • contribs) 21:35, 27 January 2020 (UTC)  — Wwefanboy68 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep - Notability established by sources. Also fairly sure that User:Wwefanboy68 and 82.198.149.227 are the same person considering their shared vendetta against this article. The Ozzy Mandias (talk) 20:16, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. The odds of an unrelated user just happening to register an account during the AfD and only caring about editing this one article are astronomical. I recommend ignoring the vote and blocking the IP and newly created account for a blatant use of sockpuppets to influence the AfD (or for clearly not being here to build an encyclopedia--either way works). GaryColemanFan (talk) 06:18, 29 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.