Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Palacio


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The result was   delete as he fails WP:ATHLETE, having never played in a fully professional league. пﮟოьεԻ  5  7  13:35, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Michael Palacio

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Michael Palacio was previously part of a bundled nomination for deletion under Articles for deletion/Doug Lascody. It was closed early per WP:Snow, and when I checked with the closing admin he explained "My closing rationale should have read the following: "These players are too different to be bundled together in one AFD, especially because one of them, Dominic Cervi, was nominated less than a month ago," and gave permission for me to go ahead and relist.  The reason Palacio should be deleted is because he does not meet WP:Athlete since he has never made an appearance for a professional senior team, only been drafted by one. Vickser (talk) 17:31, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. The guy has some notable college achievements - for instance midfielder of the year in a D1 conference (the America East). What I don't understand is, if this guy were an American football, baseball, or basketball player there would be no debate at all, so why are American soccer players treated differently from other American athletes? ugen64 (talk) 18:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The biggest reason why american college soccer should be treated differently than american college football and basketball is because of the vast difference in coverage. College basketball and football games get aired nationally on main networks.  They receive substantial coverage in the mainstream press. That's simply not true of college soccer.  And really, I think the better question ought to be "why should american soccer players get treated differently from soccer players worldwide?" It's well accepted that reserve league players (even ones who play for the best teams in the world like Chelsea F.C. or Barça or Real Madrid) aren't notable.  Palacio doesn't pass the easy stipulations of WP:Athlete.  Does he have enough significant coverage in reliable sources that he can pass WP:Bio?  To me it doesn't look like it.  Vickser (talk) 18:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, I actually did a bit more research, and it seems as if he wouldn't be notable according to the notability guidelines of the college football project since midfielder of the year in one division wouldn't count as a major national award. How are you backing that he would be notable in those other sports?  I can't seem to find evidence supporting, but I'd be eager to know. Vickser (talk) 19:04, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Player has not played in a fully professional league and article does not otherwise assert notability. Jogurney (talk) 19:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete player fails notability at WP:ATHLETE having never played in a fully-pro league/competition. Recreated if and when he makes his professional debut. --Jimbo[online] 20:00, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  20:32, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. GiantSnowman 16:21, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


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