Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Sandefer


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. seicer &#x007C;  talk  &#x007C;  contribs  04:03, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Michael Sandefer

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This is an autobiographical article that the author has admitted, in a discussion with another editor, is intended as a vehicle for self-promotion. It is the latest in a series of such articles that he has created (see the AfD discussion for "My Perfect Apathy"), and it has been very difficult to convince him both that he does not presently meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and that he does not have a "right" to an article on Wikipedia. – SJL 22:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Meeting notable people does not make you notable and the only 'sources' are myspace and youtube. Edward321 (talk) 23:18, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:23, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Boldly added an identical article created by by the same person. Edward321 (talk) 23:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I am trying to educate this user on wiki-principles. Not sure he meets notability guidelines, but I'd ask for at least a couple of days for him to try and prove notability before the article is deleted. I have found him very WP:CIVIL in his discussions with me. Acdixon (talk • contribs • count) 00:24, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * He's turned over a new leaf, then. I tried to help him in the past, and it did not go over well (see his talk page for my efforts, and my archive for his responses). He has taken a similar approach with others users as well. – SJL 01:26, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete without prejudice or malice; the editor just seems to not be aware of Wikipedia policy, which is fine. I have no problem with Acdixon's proposed waiting period, but the lowercase article should be redirected to the valid capitalized one. JuJube (talk) 00:39, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I forgot to check before I nominated the article, but it turns out that it has already been deleted twice in the past. – SJL 01:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete obviously fails both the notability and verifiability policies. Get the user to contribute contructively on other articles before attempting to write an autobiography from a neutral point of view. Jasynnash2 (talk) 08:48, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. Could be speedied under A7 or G4 (see Articles for deletion/My Perfect Apathy) but I'm happy for this to be a regular deletion discussion per Acdixon's comments above. AndyJones (talk) 12:36, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and actresses-related deletion discussions.   --  Fabrictramp  |  talk to me  17:19, 9 September 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.